Re: is intimate dead?

On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 22:56 +0000, James Conner wrote:
> Sorry to say it, but Intimate is pretty much dead. There's still a few
> people lurking around on the IRC channel, mostly for historical
> reasons.. and the site is still up on handhelds.org... but there hasn't
> been any active development going on for over 12 months now.
>

That is what I was afraid of..

> >
> The problem for those without cf/sd/etc cards was always finding
> sufficient space to cram debian into. The base image was over 65MB, and
> a workable system soon grew to 300MB. Once you start trying to cut away
> extra bits to gain space, you get to something like familiar.
>
yeah I was trying to do everything I could and keep it as close to
debian as possible ...

If that gets you closer to familiar, why dont they just do that? get
the .debs and deb->ipk the tools are already written :P I am just lazy
so that is how I think, rather than trying to maintain my own
packages... hehe

> I won't argue that the install's not the most streamlined process
> possible, but I think you might have been misled by reading the 'Install
> instructions' document that you see when you click the 'Installation'
> link on the lefthand edge of the website.
>
I was using the beta_installer script (mostly by hand because I wanted
to tweak some stuff along the way.

> The problem here is that none of the people who were hacking on intimate
> liked updating HTML pages... so the install instrcutions link on the
> left still points to install.html instead of install-howto. I would fix
> that right now, but I've long-since forgotten my password to log-in to
> the server.
>
That is a problem more than with intimate :)

> The new install docs that Chris wrote were actually the last bit of news
> posted onto the news page and can be found at
> http://intimate.handhelds.org/docs/install-howto/.
>
> There's actually another small update after the last news pages since I
> created a h3800 compatible set of install images with a 'dialog' based
> ncurses interface which allows installation without a serial console by
> using on-screen keyboard and menus :) You can find those install images
> at http://intimate.handhelds.org/h3800/
>

I will look at those but small problem.. 3800s are SA where I have a
5500 PXA.. the xserver-tiny-h3600 caused me a little concern as well.
But I havent been able to get all the packages even, so it is going to
take work to get intimate to install based on the beta_installer, but
perhaps the other URLs that you provided would be more helpful.

> There's no reliance on anything but the CRL bootloader and a CF card.
>
> Hope that helps.. and sorry for being so slack.. If you want interactive
> help, hang around on the IRC channel for 24 hours or so saying 'Tangent'
> a lot :)
>

I have actually read stuff by you off ibot :)

I dont have a CF wanted to keep my pccard slots clear for add ons,
although that is starting to look like a moot point now becuase SD
drivers are just too unstable.. I can pick up a nice 32x or faster CF
1GB for like $35 so I may do that.. Hmm.. time to set that up now..
maybe swing a larger one.. hehe
Received on Tue Dec 21 2004 - 18:14:51 EST