> Hello Giorgio,
>
> [cc: to kernel-discuss, as it really belongs there]
>
> Monday, August 7, 2006, 10:38:16 AM, you wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>
>> If nothing against it, In two days I'm going to remap all 4 special keys
>> to
>> F9-F12 set in h2200_kbd.
>> I'll provide the patches for Opie and Xmodmap.
>
>> Alle 17:23, venerd́ 4 agosto 2006, Giorgio Padrin ha scritto:
>>> If a common map is not feasible, I'd simply map in the F9-F12 range, in
>>> the
>>> order in which buttons are on the device, so someone knows visually
>>> what
>>> the map is.
>
> Sorry for not responding earlier, but there doesn't seem to be need
> to haste with this. Such a change unlikely will get into Familiar
> 0.8.4, and so, let's better invest some pondering and discussion into
> it, and do that right.
>
> So, yes, it's feasible and important to have common map. That's
> common problem and deserves common solution.
>
>> iPAQs are keyboardless devices, but we can attach bluetooth keyboards or
>> keypads with funny keys, maybe for music or else. So maybe it's better
>> to not
>> invade sets of keys with an expected behaviour.
>
> Well, you're right with this. But again, it doesn't really important
> what exact mapping is used, what's important that it was common. That
> way, one device won't be worse than another, and any fix and
> improvement will benefit all devices. So, as you say, we have little
> option now than to use Fn keys. After all, problem we face now is that
> *builtin* buttons doesn't work over wide range of handhelds, so let's
> solve that problem first, and leave external keyboards for after that -
> it will be much easier to fix if there's common ground.
>
> Ok, so let's consider what we have/may have:
>
> 1. First of all, no matter what we mapping we have, we should add
> proper level of indirection, so once we converted to common mapping,
> it can be tweaked in one place. So, let there be <linux/input-pda.h>
> which define constants with suitable prefix (like BTN_ or KEY_PDA_).
>
> 2. The least common denominator we haev is 6 buttons which *almost*
> all devices has. These are:
>
> - Power button (a must)
> - Record (most have; well, h2200 is one of the few exceptions)
> - 4 app buttons
>
> So, just defining 6 standard codes for these buttons (for appbuttons
> - as you suggest, from left to right, APP1...APP4, plus will need to
> extra rules for funke layouts vendors just love outa there), and making
> sure we have default mapping in appropraite userland (GPE/Opie), we'll
> have working keys in all current and future ports.
>
> 3. But, appbuttons mapping will be funky for many devices. If you'd be
> asked what 4 appbuttons do, what be your answer? For me, it's
> Contacts, Calendar, Tasks, Memos. Old good Palm times, where is it?..
> Looking carefully at what button assignments are in PocketPCs produced
> over years, gives a bit of shock - unorderdness and mess, each device
> tries to invent its own pattern. After first shock fades out, some
> pattern does appear still: it seems like there's 5 most common
> functions - assigned to 4 keys. Order of buttons is arbitrary however
> (i.e. buttons with same functions may be in different positions
> spatially). So, what we have:
>
> - Almost all devices have Contacts and Calendar
> - There're also Tasks, Mail(Internet, Sync, ...), and Home
> (Taskman,...)
> - Phone edition dveices have Answer/Hangup buttons and 2 app buttons
>
> 4. Phone edition devices usually have even more buttons, like Volume
> Up/Down. Some devices have jogdial.
>
>
> So, based on this, I propose:
>
> 1. We define mapping in terms of both button's position and function.
> Position is rather a fallback method, for funky devices which have
> just mad mappings.
>
> 2. Let the default correspondence between positional and functional to
> be that of "golden age" iPaqs, i.e. h1900, h2200, h4000, hx4700. These
> get F9-F12 keys.
>
> 3. Need to fugure out mapping for other keys.
>
>
> All in all, that gives following draft <input-pda.h>:
> ============#include <linux/input.h>
>
> #define KEY_PDA_POWER KEY_POWER
> #define KEY_PDA_RECORD /* There's KEY_RECORD, but it's >127. Well,
> h6300 uses it. Does it work? h6300.xmodmap
> has keycode 8 = XF86AudioRecord ??? */
it doesn't work, i tried that it at first time when i didn't know about
such problems.
> #define KEY_PDA_APP1 KEY_F9
> #define KEY_PDA_APP2 KEY_F10
> #define KEY_PDA_APP3 KEY_F11
> #define KEY_PDA_APP4 KEY_F12
>
> /* Default functional mapping is those of h1900/h2000/h4000/hx4700
> iPaqs */
> #define KEY_PDA_CALENDAR KEY_PDA_APP1
> #define KEY_PDA_CONTACTS KEY_PDA_APP2
> #define KEY_PDA_MAIL KEY_PDA_APP3
> #define KEY_PDA_HOME KEY_PDA_APP4
>
> #define KEY_PDA_TASKS /* assign */
> #define KEY_PDA_ANSWER /* assign */
> #define KEY_PDA_HANGUP /* assign */
>
> #define KEY_PDA_VOLUMEDOWN KEY_VOLUMEDOWN
> #define KEY_PDA_VOLUMEUP KEY_VOLUMEUP
>
> #define KEY_PDA_JOGUP /* assign, perhaps KEY_PAGEUP? */
> #define KEY_PDA_JOGDOWN /* assign, perhaps KEY_PAGEDOWN? */
> #define KEY_PDA_JOGACTION /* assign, perhaps KEY_KPENTER? */
> =========> Giorgio
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Paul mailto:pmiscml_at_gmail.com
>
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