Re: Rebasing handhelds.org CVS

On St, 2008-05-07 at 09:03 +0200, pHilipp Zabel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:20 AM, Michal Panczyk <mpanczyk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Milan,
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Milan Plzik <milan.plzik_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > it has been a while since handhelds.org CVS was rebased to more recent
> > > arm-linux kernel. Is there any plan to do so again in near future? I
> > > would also offer my help, but I can't do so until 1st of June (ideally,
> > > until then I will be busy).
>
> We had this discussion already some time ago, and a few of us (it
> seems due to the kernel-discuss / archive issues we failed to properly
> communicate that to everyone) tried to move over to linuxtogo.org:
> http://projects.linuxtogo.org/projects/mobile-linux
> The git repository is at:
> http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=summary
> And we have a working mailing list:
> http://projects.linuxtogo.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-linux-discuss
>
> Unfortunately, until recently there was severe lack of participation,
> so what happened was exactly Anton's scenario: the "work" branch
> merged mainline at 2.6.23 and the hh.org branch (CVS import of
> handhelds.org), and I think except for Apache not a single machine was
> fixed...

  Well, I (nor Michal, I guess) didn't know about this at all, that
might be the reason why h5000 wasn't fixed at all :)

>
> > Nice to know that You are around. I hope You know that archive of this
> > list is fully virtual - you can not find it ad hh.org nor gmane.org. I
> > am also not sure how good (bad) the list itself works - if every mail
> > coming to the list reaches al the ML recipients....
> >
> > As it goes for going arm-linux kernel - have you seen anyone around
> > capable of doing that ? I guess most of guys moved somewhere else...
>
> We are perfectly capable of doing that! Just clean up your patches and try :)
> My first magician patches to linux-arm-kernel were just basic
> functionality (board init files - it could boot into kernel panic and
> show that on the LCD). I removed the rest to clean it up and now
> slowly submit it part by part.
>
> > Also how should "we" communicate - using irc ? Because kernel-discuss
> > is silent, kernel-bugs is probably following the same way, hh.org is
> > at "Server Maintenance" since August 2007 (currently because of
> > "distribution upgrades" - nice joke!!!!). I am glad that at least the
> > CVS is working fine....
>
> I propose to move over to mobile-linux for good. Let's use the
> mobile-linux mailing list and make that known. There we should discuss
> (and archive that discussion :)) how to progress best.

  Not bad idea, but so far there are also other things one should
consider, as relationship between ltg and hho... . From what you say, it
makes sense to switch to mobile-linux, but:

  1) There might be people who want to stay at handhelds.org
  2) It would be ideal to minimize kernel development fragmentation if
there is no need to have it. Having two separate places for kernel
development is not good and might result in duplicit work, and also
makes harder to learn from each other and maintain if there are not
many experienced developers.

  It would be nice if there was clear decision for what to do -- from
what I know, it should be also possible to have GIT hosting on
handhelds.org, if we really want it.

  My personal opinion is that we should do _something_. So far there was
only little activity, from CVS logs there were only 7 users actively
commiting this year, and by number of commits only four of them have
more than one commit (on the other hand, the highest number was 183).
I'm not saying one should evaluate the development according to number
of commits to CVS, but anyway there are only few people actively working
on the tree. Unfortunately, there is no way to measure activities of
patch-posters:).

>
> I utterly agree with Anton that mainline is the only way to go, and
> I'm trying to do that for magician right now (and hx4700 and blueangel
> will follow on that long road eventually).

  I agree.

> On the other hand I think that we could benefit from a repository for
> experimental stuff, especially where the hardware is not fully
> understood and we only have trial-and-error drivers. I think
> git.linuxtogo.org could be that place. For example we just started a
> htc-msm branch for the Qualcomm MSM7k based HTC devices, and ideas to
> do htc-omap for the OMAP850 phones were floating around, too.

  I fully agree again. :) Plus, it could serve as a testbed for some
semi-experimental things (as I mentioned in previous e-mail).

>
> > I was thinking of probing Richard 'RP' Purdie and his linux-rp sources
> > - if he/they can maintain iPAQ hx2750 sources maybe it would be
> > possible to add other devices ? I guess linux-rp sources are
> > up-to-date (at least 2.6.24).
> >
> >
> > > <whisper>Or even, maybe it would be worth it to switch from CVS to GIT,
> > > and do rebasing then. :)</whisper>
>
> See above :)
>
> regards
> Philipp

        Milan
Received on Wed May 07 2008 - 16:41:23 EDT