Re: [jornada] Status

Tomas:

Unfortunately, there are some features of the Linux kernel that cannot be finished until a proper flashboard is produced. Also, the longer a community waits for something, the less chance that whatever they are waiting for will get done. That is just how OpenSource works. In this case, the Jornada-Linux community has been waiting quite a while for these flashboards.

Members, how long have you been waiting? Two to four years so far?

All that to say, it will probably be a while longer before anyone produces these flashboards. What it comes down to is time - there isn't enough of it. The members that can finish the job of producing these flashboards just don't have the time to do it. I am sorry for the bad news....

-Mark Gollahon

Tomas Vyskocil wrote ..
> Hello,
>
> thak's for your very detail answer. Bu t I have one more question - when
> I haven't flashboard is only problem with fact, that I must have it in
> all time, or is still problem with suspend. Because When
> I tried Peter Gerwinski images, suspend and some other functions wasn't
> fully supported :(
>
> Tomas
>
> > Tomas:
> >
> > The HP Jornada 710, 720, 728, or 820, runs the Windows CE operating system.
> Many people consider this operating system to be inferior to the GNU/Linux
> operating system. So, we want to run GNU/Linux on the Jornada 7xx and
> 820 computers.
> >
> > There are two ways to do it. Because the Jornada 7xx and 820 computers
> have Windows CE for its operating system, the Linux community had to come
> up with a way to get the computer to stop running Windows CE and start
> running Linux. That is what haret and linexec do. So, the first way to
> get the Jornada 7xx to run Linux is to prepare a compactflash card with
> a Linux distribution and use haret or linexec to bootstrap Linux. The
> problem with this approach is that you effectively "burn" the Jornada's
> compactflash slot in that you have to keep the compactflash card inserted
> in the Jornada for as long as you run GNU/Linux from it.
> >
> > Now, the Jornada 7xx and 820 computers started selling before Flash-ROM
> was readily available, so HP designed the Jornada 7xx and 820 to hold Windows
> CE in ROM. As you know, ROM can only be programmed once and Flash-ROM
> can be programmed multiple times (in fact, the "ROM in "Flash-ROM" is a
> bit of a misnomer since the memory is not truely read-only...). So, to
> allow for future upgrading, HP designed the Jornada with a removable board
> that only contained the operating system.
> >
> > This brings us to the second way the Linux community can run GNU/Linux
> on the Jornada 7xx and 820 - making our own board to replace the one that
> comes in the Jornada from the factory. Since we want to use Flash-ROM
> instead of straight ROM to hold our GNU/Linux distribution, we call the
> board the "Flashboard".
> >
> > Now, to give credit where credit is due: HP engineers designed the first
> Jornada flashboard. All of the things necessary to duplicate their effort
> is on the internet and readily downloadable. The only two problems left
> to make it work is how to program the Flash-ROM for the first time after
> manufacturing the flashboard and distributing the manufactured and programmed
> flashboards to the GNU/Linux community.
> >
> > Hope this tome helps!
> > -Mark Gollahon
> >
> >
> > Tomas Vyskocil wrote ..
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > i would like to ask for some question, i don't read this
> > > forum for some time and I don't know state of linux port
> > > for jornada 7xx now.
> > >
> > > My question - what can do for me programs like haret and
> > > linexec? I don't meet this program before?
> > >
> > > And what is main diffrence now, between machine with
> > > flashboard doughterboard and without?
> > >
> > > Can me anyone answer this newbie questions?
> > >
> > > Tomas
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Received on Sun Nov 14 12:36:23 2004