RE: [jornada] pm with jornada720 flashrom

Hi,
there's a couple of problems here. The J7XX line is
an end-of-life product (or end-of-line ?). Finish
what's in the production line, then shut it down.
So there is no `growing' market for the Flash ROMs.
Our best bet is to get a low volume run done (like
Jamey suggested), if one can identify such a
manufacturer.

Sure we like to push research and innovation (definitely
from the labs perspective), but for a company of this
size, you do need a really large volumes ($100M - $1B)
to get divisional interest.

Sumit
Disclaimer: This is my personal opinion, it not meant to
represent HP Corporate policy in any way.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tds [mailto:tds_at_time-domain.co.uk]
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 12:07 PM
> To: Roy, Sumit
> Cc: 'Jamey Hicks'; Jacek Lipkowski; jornada_at_handhelds.org
> Subject: RE: [jornada] pm with jornada720 flashrom
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Roy, Sumit wrote:
>
> > Hmm,
> > considering that I `reverse engineered' the
> > FLASH based boards, I'd really like see the
> > design made public. Meanwhile, I will lean
> > a little harder on the powers that be ...
>
> I think there will be a ready and commercially viable market for
> these boards if HP manufactured & supported them as an 'official'
> option; from the interest expressed in this mailing list the demand
> might seem small to HP but what if the J710/720/728 got the reputation
> for being 'the' Linux handheld it so richly deserves to be? OK, a lot
> of people are buying iPaqs, Yoppys and Zaurus because they run Linux
> but if they could buy something that had all the features of the
> Jornada 720 (like the real keyboard, screen, etc) then I'm sure sales
> would rise - there are a lot of Linux users out there who'd
> jump at the
> chance of getting a sub-miniature Linux PC.
>
> > The boards cost us +$100 a piece for the low
> > volume that we did in the original batch. A
> > major PIA is that the connectors are typically
> > sold in quantities of 10,000 (!). FLASH ROMs,
> > DRAM etc. is not much of a problem in small lots.
>
> Perhaps a deal could be negotiated with the connector suppliers for a
> smaller quantity but higher cost? It would still be worth it.
>
> cheers,
>
> Andy
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jamey Hicks [mailto:jamey.hicks_at_hp.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 7:58 AM
> > > To: Jacek Lipkowski
> > > Cc: jornada_at_handhelds.org
> > > Subject: Re: [jornada] pm with jornada720 flashrom
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 10:28, Jacek Lipkowski wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Jamey Hicks wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > In response to the plea for flashroms, I think we could
> > > release the
> > > > > design to someone who wanted to fabricate the flash modules.
> > > >
> > > > could HP make the design publicly avaliable? (not only to
> > > "interested
> > > > parties").
> > >
> > > What I meant by my comment above was to make the design publicly
> > > available. We're working on getting it cleared for
> publication now.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > btw. whats keeping HP from just making these boards and
> > > selling them?
> > >
> > > It's too low volume. However, I think that there are
> companies that
> > > specialize in this kind of thing.
> > >
> > > > - judging from the amount of hits that my page regarding
> > > booting linux on
> > > > the jornada (around 4000) there is alot of people desperate
> > > enough to boot
> > > > linux via hpcboot - so probably at least a few hundred
> would buy the
> > > > board. ask Peter how many people downloaded his images.
> > >
> > > I would like to get the jornada720 supported on
> handhelds.org under
> > > Familiar, even including hpcboot, but I do not have time
> to work on
> > > this. I think it would be best to discuss this further on
> > > irc.freenode.net #handhelds.org when nelson and I are around.
> > >
> > > -Jamey
> > >
> > >
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