Re: [jornada] Jornada 720 vs Sharp Zaurus

On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Curt Crandall wrote:

> As a former Zaurus owner, beware. The stock software
> on it is not very good. Also, your screen size is
> considerable smaller as well as your keyboard... so
> it's not quite as good for using as a terminal in my
> opinion.

I'm glad of your opinion and I think I'll wait for a bit.

> You don't need Windows to load MP3s onto CF. Just
> mount it in UNIX and treat it as any other FAT
> partition. The only time I ever sync to Windows with
> my 720 is when I want to load some software on it that
> needs to go through Activesync to install.

You mean get a CF adapter, connect it to a Linux PC and write the files
to it? Does the J720 actually use FAT filesystems? I thought WinCE used
something completely different.

> Also, if you want X, Perl, kaffe, sh, etc. There's a
> site with some WinCE software out there that'll work
> for you:
>
> http://www.rainer-keuchel.de/wince/dirlist.html
>
> I downloaded Apache from there and it works great.

Thanks very much, I'll go and look now and see what there is. Thanks for
the tip!

> Like yourself, I'd love to have Linux on my Jornada
> 720, but there doesn't appear to be any ROMs available
> now and I'm not motivated enough to try to compile and
> install my own ROM with the existing hardware since I
> don't want to take the chance of turning it into a
> brick and then trying to reload CE back on.
>
> Sharp is coming out with a larger PDA that sounds like
> it'll be similar to the Jornada 72x in formfactor.
> Maybe by then Sharp will have the software fixed. My
> main contention with the Sharp software was that it
> didn't seem to manage memory very well at all.

Do you have any more information on the new Sharp? It sounds ideal for me
and I'm prepared to wait. The J720 would be absolutely ideal if it ran a
Unix-like o/s - I'd use it all the time for all sorts of things, not just
a few times a year when there's an emergency and I need to log into some
other system.

> Also, the new Yopy looks VERY nice... I wonder if
> we'll be able to get our hands on it here in the US?

It does, doesn't it although the keyboard looks cramped.

Andy

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> <tds_at_purdy.time-domain.co.uk> wrote:
> > As a sys admin, I bought a Jornada 720 in August
> > last year to use mainly
> > as a portable ssh terminal (using Mochasoft's
> > telnet/ssh client) for logging
> > into Unix & Linux systems via mobile phone while I
> > am away from base or on
> > holiday. Secondary considerations were the
> > possibility that I could use it
> > as an MP3 player and that one day I could replace
> > WinCE with Linux or NetBSD.
> >
> > One year on, it has performed admirably as a
> > terminal and got my clients
> > out of trouble many times - logging into some really
> > busy web servers from
> > a beach in Tenerife or a bar in London and sorting
> > out problems, etc, it's
> > been really great. As an MP3 player (even with a
> > 256MB CF flash card), it's
> > not so good as the only way to get MP3 files into it
> > is via a Windows sync
> > connection which is a fat lot of good if you're not
> > a Windoze user. And
> > I've never been able to find any clear information
> > on running Linux or
> > NetBSD on it.
> >
> > I'm now looking enviously at the Sharp Zaurus -
> > apart from running Linux
> > and being a familiar environment for me, getting
> > files into/out of it
> > seems easy using standard ftp, nfs etc. But what's
> > the keyboard really
> > like to use? It seems tiny compared with the 720's -
> > this is very important
> > to me as a mainly shell user and one reason why I
> > chose the 720 over, say,
> > the iPaq. If the keyboard's anything like as usable
> > as the 720, I'm buying
> > a Zaurus.
> >
> > Andy
> >
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Received on Wed Oct 09 2002 - 09:45:47 EDT