Re: [jornada] Re: Ubuntu, some people interested in ARM/handhelds

Greetings,

I Quite agree, about your familiar vs debian reflections. And its a
questions I've been trying to get my head round for quite some time. Its
probobly what makes the Jornada unique, the fact that it falls between
laptop / pda.

So far I've tried to satisfy both camps, those that want a hardcore debian
based distro (manfred) and those that want pda utils (shrek/donkey).

In the long run though, I truly believe that people should find whats
missing in Openembedded and implement those programs. That work is currently
in progress, but moving slowling due to the majority of Openembedded
developers using "keyboard-less" pda's.

Best wishes
Kristoffer

>From: Colin Sauze <colinsauze_at_gmail.com>
>To: jornada_at_handhelds.org
>Subject: Re: [jornada] Re: Ubuntu, some people interested in ARM/handhelds
>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:53:17 +0100
>
>Steven Rosario (snickersmd) wrote:
>
>>Kristoffer Ericson <kristoffer_e1 <at> hotmail.com> writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Greetings,
>>>
>>>Thought I would give a quick piece of my mind on the subject.
>>>I basicly agree with Adam in which direction the linux pda's should go.
>>>
>>>Despite what you run on your pda all users have the same requirements,
>>>they want usability and speed. Both of which is better satisfied with an
>>>Openembedded/familiar approach rather than porting a large scale
>>>distribution. I would hope that the general community would work to
>>>improve Openembedded rather than setting up specific distro based
>>>branches that most often die out within a year or so.
>>>
>>>My vision for linux handhelds is a limited set of programs that are
>>>small, quick and do their job well.
>>>
>>>Best wishes
>>>Kristoffer
>>>www.jlime.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Ah, a similar philosophy to how the Palm OS attained its early dominance
>>in the PDA market.
>>
>>That's just it though, I am a long time Palm OS user and I still prefer to
>>keep using my Palm for my PDA needs. To me, my Jornada 728 running Linux
>>is a pocket
>>
>Do you have a flashboard in it? I'd say a Jornada 728 would be perfect if
>it could actually be suspended! A Jornada 720 isn't quite so good given its
>only got 32mb of RAM.
>
>>workstation. Of course it doesn't have the power to run a full desktop
>>distro, and I have no intention of making it do so. It just has to behave
>>somewhere in the middle of PDA and Desktop. There are quite a few people
>>who want to use their Jornadas in this way and not as a PDA. 720degrees
>>aims to fill that niche.
>>
>>
>
>I have to agree that my intention is for a pocket workstation not an
>overblown personal organiser. My first PDA was a Psion Series 5 and I have
>to admit I've always admired their philosophy of implementing a light
>weight word processor, spreadsheet, simple database etc. I'm still yet to
>such an elegant implementation of such apps on another PDA. What impresses
>me even more is that Psion crammed all of that into 8mb of ROM in the
>Series 5 and even less on the Series 3a.
>
>Moving onto the present day and I think that web browser, IM client, pdf
>viewer and ssh client have to be added to that list.
>
>From what i've seen of Debian and of Familiar (sorry haven't tried Jlime
>yet), Familiar provides a nice looking GUI to do all of this but often
>lacks serious apps while Debian tends to provide full blown desktop
>applications but is limited to window managers which aren't entirely
>suitable for a PDA. Also many applications don't fit properly on a
>Jornada's screen. What I feel we need is either completely custom PDA
>applications to do everyday tasks (some of which exist some don't) or
>adaptations of desktop applications (like minimo).
>
>>
>>
>
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Received on Wed Apr 19 2006 - 17:19:46 EDT