Re: [jornada] Jornada 710/720 Lateral Thinking.

Hi,

Thanks for the feedback. I've looked a little futher into the gumstix.
There should be no problem fitting the boards in. I have photos:
http://www.cs.bris.ac.uk/~ellis/jornada_stix/jornada_stix.htm
It seems that there is a limit on which boards can be fitted together,
consequently there is a restriction on (for example) cf or ethernet - it
might be possible to switch these on and off? Also, it seems that it is
not possible to have sound & the lcd driver :(

Does anyone have more information on the screen used in the Jornada? I
have found information about the LCD driver, but I'm wondering if it's
not just better to use the driver from the gumstix, and just connect
that to the screen?
Also, are details available on the wiring for the keyboard?

Thanks for any help,
Gav-the-ever-optimistic!

My current thinking is that the cf slot would be sacrificed, along with
the pcmcia slot. Although the pcmcia slot could be used for compact flash.

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> 1. Jornada 710/720 Lateral Thinking. (Gavin Ellis)
> 2. Re: Jornada 710/720 Lateral Thinking. (otto.waltari_at_kolumbus.fi)
> 3. Re: Jornada 710/720 Lateral Thinking. (Gregory Nutt)
> 4. Re: Jornada 710/720 Lateral Thinking. (Mark Gollahon)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:40:05 +0100
>From: Gavin Ellis <gavin.ellis_at_denverslair.co.uk>
>Subject: [jornada] Jornada 710/720 Lateral Thinking.
>To: jornada_at_handhelds.org
>Message-ID: <424BC575.5060302_at_denverslair.co.uk>
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>Hello all,
>
>I have long followed the development of linux on the 720, and am glad
>that it is working, congratulations to all who have worked on it!
>
>I am one of many who do not have a flashboard (and yes I would like
>one!! ).
>
>The purpose of this post is to ask... Rather than struggle to get a
>manufacturer for the flashboards, how hard would it be to interface a
>gumstix board to the screen and keyboard? Look www.gumstix.com these
>boards are literally the size of a stick of gum - we've been using them
>for a project at uni. My idea is to replace the 720 internals with one.
>They already run linux, their I/O is well documented, it would 'upgrade'
>the 720 to a 400Mhz Xscale and increase the ram. You could have
>bluetooth, use the gap in the case that has the modem socket as a
>network socket with one of their addon boards, add a sound board, and
>probably still have room for more! The only trouble would be interfacing
>to the keyboard and screen.
>
>What do people think?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Gav.
>
>
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>
>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 15:13:46 +0300
>From: <otto.waltari_at_kolumbus.fi>
>Subject: Re: [jornada] Jornada 710/720 Lateral Thinking.
>To: <jornada_at_handhelds.org>
>Message-ID:
> <20050331121346.VTKS27673.fep30-app.kolumbus.fi_at_mta.imail.kolumbus.fi>
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>
>Hey.
>IMHO a pretty bad idea. Replacing the internals with custom parts
>means a lot of wiring, eg. the cf- and pcmcia-slots. Also, I didn't
>see a graphics adapter, nor a keyboard controller at that site.
>I'd also make a statement that the required gumstick modules won't
>fit inside a 700-series jornada.
>
>Cheers.
>Otto Waltari.
>
>
>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I have long followed the development of linux on the 720, and am glad
>>> that it is working, congratulations to all who have worked on it!
>>>
>>> I am one of many who do not have a flashboard (and yes I would like
>>> one!! ).
>>>
>>> The purpose of this post is to ask... Rather than struggle to get a
>>> manufacturer for the flashboards, how hard would it be to interface a
>>> gumstix board to the screen and keyboard? Look www.gumstix.com these
>>> boards are literally the size of a stick of gum - we've been using them
>>> for a project at uni. My idea is to replace the 720 internals with one.
>>> They already run linux, their I/O is well documented, it would 'upgrade'
>>> the 720 to a 400Mhz Xscale and increase the ram. You could have
>>> bluetooth, use the gap in the case that has the modem socket as a
>>> network socket with one of their addon boards, add a sound board, and
>>> probably still have room for more! The only trouble would be interfacing
>>> to the keyboard and screen.
>>>
>>> What do people think?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Gav.
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>>> jornada_at_handhelds.org
>>> https://handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo/jornada
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 3
>Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 07:29:12 -0500
>From: Gregory Nutt <gregory_at_nutt.ca>
>Subject: Re: [jornada] Jornada 710/720 Lateral Thinking.
>To: otto.waltari_at_kolumbus.fi
>Cc: jornada_at_handhelds.org
>Message-ID: <424BED18.3010902_at_nutt.ca>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>Alternatively, it is an intriguing idea. Obviously it will require some
>ingenious design work for an ambitious person. I would be willing to
>entertain the possibilities. Someone will need to do some research.
>
>1. Need to work out the schematic.
>2. Need to calculate internal space available and draw the layout that
>would fit
>3. Build a prototype
>
>I would follow the lead if this could work. This sounds like it could
>open the door to making this device a little more useful. I'd love to
>know if the following could all fit inside with modifications
>- microdrive
>- Built-in WIFI
>- Bluetooth
>- USB
>
>Unfortunately, I don't have the time to take this lead and investigate,
>so if someone feels ambitious...
>
>Greg
>
>otto.waltari_at_kolumbus.fi wrote:
>
>
>
>>>Hey.
>>>IMHO a pretty bad idea. Replacing the internals with custom parts
>>>means a lot of wiring, eg. the cf- and pcmcia-slots. Also, I didn't
>>>see a graphics adapter, nor a keyboard controller at that site.
>>>I'd also make a statement that the required gumstick modules won't
>>>fit inside a 700-series jornada.
>>>
>>>Cheers.
>>>Otto Waltari.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>>I have long followed the development of linux on the 720, and am glad
>>>>>that it is working, congratulations to all who have worked on it!
>>>>>
>>>>>I am one of many who do not have a flashboard (and yes I would like
>>>>>one!! ).
>>>>>
>>>>>The purpose of this post is to ask... Rather than struggle to get a
>>>>>manufacturer for the flashboards, how hard would it be to interface a
>>>>>gumstix board to the screen and keyboard? Look www.gumstix.com these
>>>>>boards are literally the size of a stick of gum - we've been using them
>>>>>for a project at uni. My idea is to replace the 720 internals with one.
>>>>>They already run linux, their I/O is well documented, it would 'upgrade'
>>>>>the 720 to a 400Mhz Xscale and increase the ram. You could have
>>>>>bluetooth, use the gap in the case that has the modem socket as a
>>>>>network socket with one of their addon boards, add a sound board, and
>>>>>probably still have room for more! The only trouble would be interfacing
>>>>>to the keyboard and screen.
>>>>>
>>>>>What do people think?
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>>Gav.
>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>jornada mailing list
>>>>>jornada_at_handhelds.org
>>>>>https://handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo/jornada
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:22:13 -0500 (EST)
>From: "Mark Gollahon" <golly_at_stellarwerx.com>
>Subject: Re: [jornada] Jornada 710/720 Lateral Thinking.
>To: Gregory Nutt <gregory_at_nutt.ca>
>Cc: jornada_at_handhelds.org
>Message-ID: <1112282531.891_at_gatekeeper.stellarwerx.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>It is an intriguing idea, but there are a number of problems the developer will face. I agree with Gregory - it will take a VERY ambitious person. In any case, the pcmcia slot and smartmedia slot would probably have to be deactivated to make this work.
>
>Gregory Nutt wrote ..
>
>
>>> Alternatively, it is an intriguing idea. Obviously it will require some
>>> ingenious design work for an ambitious person. I would be willing to
>>> entertain the possibilities. Someone will need to do some research.
>>>
>>> 1. Need to work out the schematic.
>>> 2. Need to calculate internal space available and draw the layout that
>>> would fit
>>> 3. Build a prototype
>>>
>>> I would follow the lead if this could work. This sounds like it could
>>> open the door to making this device a little more useful. I'd love to
>>> know if the following could all fit inside with modifications
>>> - microdrive
>>> - Built-in WIFI
>>> - Bluetooth
>>> - USB
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I don't have the time to take this lead and investigate,
>>> so if someone feels ambitious...
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> otto.waltari_at_kolumbus.fi wrote:
>>>
>>
>>
>>>> >Hey.
>>>> >IMHO a pretty bad idea. Replacing the internals with custom parts
>>>> >means a lot of wiring, eg. the cf- and pcmcia-slots. Also, I didn't
>>>> >see a graphics adapter, nor a keyboard controller at that site.
>>>> >I'd also make a statement that the required gumstick modules won't
>>>> >fit inside a 700-series jornada.
>>>> >
>>>> >Cheers.
>>>> >Otto Waltari.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >>Hello all,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>I have long followed the development of linux on the 720, and am glad
>>>>> >>that it is working, congratulations to all who have worked on it!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>I am one of many who do not have a flashboard (and yes I would like
>>>>> >>one!! ).
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>The purpose of this post is to ask... Rather than struggle to get a
>>>>> >>manufacturer for the flashboards, how hard would it be to interface a
>>>>> >>gumstix board to the screen and keyboard? Look www.gumstix.com these
>>>>> >>boards are literally the size of a stick of gum - we've been using them
>>>>> >>for a project at uni. My idea is to replace the 720 internals with one.
>>>>> >>They already run linux, their I/O is well documented, it would 'upgrade'
>>>>> >>the 720 to a 400Mhz Xscale and increase the ram. You could have
>>>>> >>bluetooth, use the gap in the case that has the modem socket as a
>>>>> >>network socket with one of their addon boards, add a sound board, and
>>>>> >>probably still have room for more! The only trouble would be interfacing
>>>>> >>to the keyboard and screen.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>What do people think?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>Cheers,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>Gav.
>>>>> >>_______________________________________________
>>>>> >>jornada mailing list
>>>>> >>jornada_at_handhelds.org
>>>>> >>https://handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo/jornada
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
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