Re: [iPAQ] Squeak on iPAQ :-)

On 1/2/01 3:54 am, Jay Carlson (nop@place.org) wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Michael Houghton wrote:
>
>> On 31/1/01 8:36 pm, Jay Carlson (nop@place.org) wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Alan Cox wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Both Java and Smalltalk are VM-based. The differences I see are mainly
>>>>> specific to the Squeak implementation:
>>>>> - Squeak is entirely open source, including the VM.
>>>>
>>>> You have that backwards. Squeak is weird closed with source licensed,
>>>
>>> As far as I can tell, Squeak's license fits the OSD once you remove
>>> Apple's fonts from the image. IANAL, IANOSI. If you can point to
>>> something that breaks the OSD in it, please lemme know.
>>
>> The points from the OSD that I think might be at issue as in
>> (http://www.opensource.org/osd.html)
>>
>> 5. No Discrimination Against Persons or Groups.
> [...]
>> 6. No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor.
> [...]
>> 7. Distribution of License.
> [...]
>
>>> The Squeak license's language is unfamiliar, sure. But the community
>>> understanding is that the Squeak license operates as the MPL for an
>>> environment where files don't make sense.
>>
>> This is not to say that I think these are impossible to overcome, but I
>> think they should be addressed, if we're going to keep ourselves honest.
>
> I wrote a bunch of random stuff about 5,6,7 and then deleted it all,
> cos I'm outta my depth at this level of detail. Maybe it's time to
> send this over to license-discuss@opensource.org and let them help us
> figure it out?
>
> Jay
>

Sounds like a plan. However, I should let the Squeak folk reply before
escalating it elsewhere, I think.

Mike (thinks all this is fixable; unlike his apache compiles...)

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