Hi guys!
Thanks for including me :) I feel honoured.
Firstly, please excuse my dual-email issue, I've recently acquired ADSL
(and more email addy's) ... slowly moving from one to the other ...
but still trying to work out which to use :)
(ie. whichever seems to work on the day)
To understand my confusion you might like a copy of my network design :))
(please ask if you would like a scanned copy)
... which actually may be relevant to Ingo's comment about a
common compilation environment ... more about that later)
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:48:25 +0100
Michael Opdenacker <zumbi2@netcourrier.com> wrote:
> > I admit that I'm not familiar with Wikis. I assume this makes it easy
> > to store information publicly.
Me neither, but I understand the concept (from a non-wiki-user's
point-of-view;) I would compare it to a "h2200 whiteboard" that all can
scribble on. Labelling it as 'HpIpaqH2200" seems logical .. go for it
Michael.
> > I'm not totally sure that it makes sense to have such a lot of mailing
> > lists. Because if you want to trace progress you need to be on all of
> > those lists and my impression is that we should rather have more
> > traffic than less in summary. I could imagine that the momentum
> > increases when we have more email traffic! (For me it's just another
> > subscribe so I don't mind but all other who are interested have also to
> > subscribe.)
>
> I agree that it's better to have more traffic than less, but on the
> other hand, I wouldn't want to bother people not interested in the 2200
> port, and would tend to send private messages like this one.
I believe that pm's regarding development are untimately detrimental
to our cause, and only cause duplication (if not multiplication) of effort.
Stuff the bother :)
Email filters and subject matter seem ok to me.
(Just filter each list to a separate folder and choose what to read by
subject) Hence I have no problems with Michael setting up a 2200-specific
list. Once operational, I will forward announcements to all those who have
mailed me in the past re 2200 (the list is growing).
I asked in #hh.org:
"ive received suggestions about creating a 2200-specific mailing list and
wiki. Any comments or ideas? Sounds OK to me."<jamey> marcus34: I'll create
h2200-port@handhelds.org
Done.
> This is bad
> for people interested in our work, because there are no archives. In
> addition, when we have a generic question, we can share it with the
> general mailing lists too. Let's see what Marcus thinks!
Thanks for asking Michael, IMHO you both have valid points.
>From my point of view:
1. I joined ALL hh related lists I could find so that I could learn.
I will continue to do so, however, no net access for a day or so can
result in over 400 emails... a little tedious to digest at times.
For this reason alone, it may be pertinent to create a 22xx-specific
list, as there is so much information to absorb (esp. for a new
user). I guess the danger would be the dilution of info that
should really be generally directed to the main lists, however
this could probably be judged on a case-by-case basis like the
rest of the lists (and appropriate redirections suggested when
required).
2. I do not think that private emails are appropriate (forgive me for
reposting pm's to ipaq@handhelds.org), but consider that there will
be ppl like us in the future looking for leads (as in the past) ...
and our conversations may assist others in their development too
(no matter how trivial)... eg. technical, structural, political ...
as long as it's OT-ish it should be OK, right?
> > PS: I have looked to the toolchain directory and ran in a couple of
> > questions . I ran into a couple of questions. I'll collect those and
> > send them out tomorrow or Thursday.
Sounds good. Let us know your thoughts.
I'm still working on UML, perhaps you would like to continue your
experiments on my system? See below:
> > IMHO to have a common compilation environment is key.
> Definitely agree with you!
Me too.
To that end, I have (re)built a server to suit (Proliant 2500 Dual
PPro200). I have discussed this with #hh.org regulars (you know who you
are). It is currently running a custom 2.4.22-1-686-smp kernel, however
after the recent Debian hacks I intend to patch & recompile for 2.4.23
Once this is complete, this server will be moved from my green zone into
the DMZ, and necessary ports will be routed through both external and
internal firewalls to allow for development of UML (user-mode-linux)
access.(Assistance here would be appreciated ... routing is easy, UML is
new to me) This (I believe) will allow us to achieve a 'common compilation
environment' for development purposes, and (depending on system load) may
even be suitable for development of other (similar?) ports simultaneously.
Received on Wed Dec 10 17:01:45 2003
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