Re: Anybody still active on porting for this device ?

On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 12:52:07PM +0100, fox wrote:
> Helo!
> >There are a few things I'd advise.
> >
> >1. Remove the getty on ttyS0 from /etc/inittab.
> >
> I Did, works. It's easily done if you use an SD-Card Reader on your
> Linux Box..
> >2. Think about the pros and cons of using a swap file.
> > Ive had memory cards die because of all the extra writing.
> > Ive had programs exit when out of memory.
> >
> >
> You mean a Swap File on the Device Storage, not the SD/MMC-Card? Yes,
> that may be an Idea. But i think that's not (yet) needed rightnow.
> There's more work needed that we're able to Flash our Linux Images
> directly to the h6300 Storage, and actually boot Linux Native on the
> Device. So we won't need a 2nd Boot after loading WinCE. But i admit
> it's a really easy for development, when you can put files and updates
> on your SD/MMC and test-boot that on the h6300..
> But as stated in the last Mail, i'm no assembler/device Programmer Guy..
> That's your Job Dude! :-)
> >There are a few things I've found not to work.
> >
> >1. The HPBT foldable keyboard, installing the ?kbd? program should fix
> >this.
> >
> Same for the iPaq Thumb Keyboard that came with the h6300. Won't work
> out of the box, but i think there must be a way to enable it. it's
> connected to the ipaq connector, that goes to /dev/ttyS0 - at least i
> believe so..
>
> >2. Using pppd to continually stay connected, I think we need an
> >update/patch. I did install a pppd from Debian that should have the
> >patch, but this is still an issue.
> >
> >
> hmm.. tried keepalive, eg. ping somehost every 5 minutes or so?
> unfortunately i can't test GSM because the lack of a SIMcard.
>
> >Other notes:
> >
> >I'd love to see new images built!! Can I assume that there are
> >Developers working on Familiar and/or GPE? Are there updates that the
> >current image does not have?
> >
> >
> Absolutely, the linux-omap kernel is version 2.6.24 and gpe is 2.8 -
> also i read something about familiar on
> http://gpe.linuxtogo.org/download.phtml :
>
Perhaps drivers like the BT we are using may have accumulated bitrot,
but it's worth a try. A new build of gpe would be welcome, there is a
/feature/ of the DM where users like "Debian-Exim" show up in the list.

> "GPE is available for Familiar Linux as ready to run images for a few
> iPAQ devices.
> Choose the GPE option when getting an image from the latest Familiar
> release <http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/latest/>. Currently GPE
> in Familiar is quite outdated and there are no updated GPE packages any
> more in the unstable feed. In general Familiar is obsolete unless you
> use a very old iPAQ (h3xxx)."
>
This image may not be usable, it built without errors but I do not
think it's bootable without MDoC+ support and a boot loader.

> So what's the Replacement?
> >I didn't think about it till now, but I could perhaps repack the image
> >and fix the hciattach problem. This assumes that there are no updates
> >to the software included, a frightful thought.
> >
> >
>
> >I'm too lazy to setup a build/test environment, but I can assist with
> >fixing bugs and committing patches to CVS.
> >
> >
> Not me, but i would love to setup an Crosscompiler / Build Environment.
> But there are no Howtos anymore, because Mika's site is gone. And it
> looks like there's 1000 Ways to do that, bitbake, monotone, svn, git..
> where should i start, what tools should i use.. how, why, and huh? Don't
> get me wrong, i compile the kernels for my boxes for years now, but i
> never tried those crosscompilers..
> >What about the new EABI?
> >http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort
> >
> >
> will have a look at!
> >>But, it's somewhat ugly when most of the links on
> >>http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqH6315 are unreachable. also
> >>the latest available image is from december 2006.
> >>fuzzyneural.net's h6300 page seems to be lost, also
> >>http://aragorn.kortex.jyu.fi:8080/h6300 ..
> >>or are there already new links, but no-one want's to tell, because
> >>they're so cool and awesome that no one wants to share that (because of
> >>all the dumb people who start silly questions about stuff already
> >>discussed? :)
> >>
> >>so, here can i find an build environment (and some howtos) for the h6300 ?
> >>
> >>what's about porting simon (speech to text recognition) and mbrola
> >>(speech synth) to the device?
> >>imagine it in a pipe with some AI like JEliza - that would make some
> >>(Artifical) weird iFriend out of your iPaq..
> >>
> >>or dial your phonenumbers with your language over your bluetooth headset..
> >>
> >>or create a voice mail box right on your h6300 - after ringing 3 times
> >>take up, play your message, beep and record what's coming in. or let the
> >>caller talk to some AI *grin*
> >>
> >>im also willing to help you, but unfortunately are my c++ skills not
> >>available nor i can't speak assembler or write drivers to enable the
> >>wlan. but i can offer "won't dissappear"-webspace for images, svn stuff
> >>and the like, if needed. may the developers contact me.
> >>
> >>
> >One issue is updating stale content, if ppl put up there own sites. I
> >would have posted what is avalible, but given the current RC bugs I
> >don't feel like it would be appropriot.
> >
> >There was a copy of the stuff from aragorn.
> >
> >
> I think those Files and Informations should be stored on handhelds.org.
> there should be one repository with all the stuff needed. It's hard, and
> i believe developers are too busy to search their infos on 10 different
> pages. And what's about a roadmap? I mean, the hp iPaq h6300 is a great
> device and the status is B- since.. years?
>
> Okay, now to something (possibly) helpful:
> I have some Spare Parts here, that i don't need anymore:
>
> 1. One HP Thumb Keyboard (German Layout, has a Ü Sign ;)
>
> 2. A h6300 Cover (i built in a camera window with foxconn spare parts).
> Back and Front, but it has scratches and some edges are damaged and the
> antenna cover is in holydays.. also the rubber side parts are not that
> good, and one is missing, and the 'warranty void' seal is broken :)
> in short, it's not a nice one - but it will take up a h6300 board.
>
> 3. A ipaq h6300 Board (no touchscreen, that's broken somehow - got it
> >From ricardo (that's switzerlands version of ebay), and it wont work
> with no reason. display should be okay, but no touchscreen input
> rescieved, with camera module from foxconn parts store. (yes, simply
> stick the cam module into your h6300, cheat and reflash the h6315 hp
> image and you have a working camera - it's a cruel.. but under linux it
> should be as easy as modprobe some_cam_module *g* viva!) the board
> SHOULD work, but i can't tell exactly because i have no spare
> Touchscreen to test. one will need to reflash it with some wince image.
>
> I am willing to contribute/donate this parts (complete or separately)
> for the ipaq h6300 linux development (NOT for someone who want to repair
> his ipaq for free to use his dumb winCE!) !
>
> Just send me an email, and we could talk about.
>
>

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