RE: filesystem error on HP4155

After firmly removing head from butt, I re-downloaded the gpe image, and ran RR yet again...NOW I find th eoption to create the RR-syslog,gz file and have done so...hope this helps...
rick

> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:42:06 +1000> From: marcusbrutus@internode.on.net> To: rtonda@hotmail.com; h4100-port@handhelds.org> Subject: Re: [H4100-port] filesystem error on HP4155> > Hi Rick,> > quote: "so if you have> further problems *PLEASE* attach the RR-syslog.gz from a failed> installation attempt so that I can help you further."> > :)> > Marcus.> > > ps. please download the GPE tarball again.> pps. please keep these posts CC'd to the list for the benefit of others.> > > Richard Tonda wrote:> > Marcus,> > > > Thanks again for all your help. I tried all of your suggestions > > (photo_format, LINUX_format, back to fat, then fat32...all with the same > > result. I believe you are correct, there is something more insidious > > here. Indeed, I believe I know what it is, it is the gpe_image file. > > RAMDISK consistently says that the image file contains no root file > > system, and I don't think it does. I had chosen the gpe file because it > > seemed the comments implied I might experience a couple of more issues > > with the opie-version. But on a lark, and after MANY retries, I decided > > to attempt the opie_image. It worked flawlessly the first time(at least > > to install LINUX). RAMDISK completed properly, and then the test on the > > extended partition was a complete success, I heard the audio > > announcement that all was well at the end, and felt like I was ready to > > rock and roll. HOWEVER, there does NOT seem to be any new content under > > the linux directory...and the instructions imply that there will be'new' > > copies of haret (I am using 0.4.7) and presumably new > > startup/default/custom configuration files as well, to point to the > > newly-installed linux system. These do not, however, seem to be there. > > Am I missing something?> > The instructions say, do a hard re-boot (that was OK)> > Then, in the File Mag\nager, change directory to 'linux' on the memory > > card (that is easy)> > but there is nothing there except the rescue folder.> > > > Am I just dumbing-up here?> > > > Thanks,> > > > rick> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > > Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 11:07:00 +1000> > > From: marcusbrutus@internode.on.net> > > To: rtonda@hotmail.com> > > CC: h4100-port@handhelds.org> > > Subject: Re: [H4100-port] filesystem error on HP4155> > >> > > Hi Rick,> > >> > > It is not necessary to pre-partition the card, it just must> > > have a partition table on it. A partionless card is not> > > something you would have by accident ... it's usually done> > > by ppl who are either following instructions, or by ppl who> > > think that treating an SD card like a floppy is a good idea> > > (insignificant space advantage). Although I've tried, I've> > > been unable to create a method of turning a partionless card> > > into a partioned one (under all circumstances). As RR> > > *abolutely* needs TWO partitions (on a single card install)> > > when finished to provide you with a "boot partition" and a> > > "linux partition", partionless cards are currently (and most> > > likely, FOREVER!) unsupported.> > >> > > However, it appears from your comments that you _do_ have a> > > partition table so ignore my "early-morning" "post-party"> > > pre-caffeine partionless ramblings. ;)> > >> > > The easiest way to *almost* guarantee that RR will work,> > > is to start with a freshly formatted card. The easiest> > > way to do that is zero the first sector of the card, and> > > then insert the card while running PPC. Formatting with a> > > camera is an alternative. The difference between PPC and> > > camera formats is that PPC creates a logical partition in> > > an extended partition (part 5), whereas a camera will just> > > create a primary partition (part 1). Then there are further> > > combinations/permutations depending on the size of the card> > > and the type of the camera, but as rule of thumb, PPC will> > > format the partition as FAT32, and a camera will do FAT16.> > > Essentially: _BOTH_ methods have their faults ;)> > >> > > The *best* way to format a card correctly is with Linux, but> > > if you add the "user experience" factor and the "Distro"> > > variable this becomes a worse option by complication alone ;P> > > FYI: On a decent sized card (assuming you have a single card> > > that is used for other things as well), the first partition> > > should be FAT32 formatted/mounted as vfat. The hardest part> > > with a Linux format is getting the "cylinder boundaries"> > > right ... in the case of SD cards this is determined by a few> > > _software_ parameters ... which *can* cause problems with *some*> > > software *sometimes* (ie. when the wind is blowing in the> > > wrong direction, you've forgotten to wear your lucky red tie,> > > and you really need the fscking thing to work! @#$!)> > >> > > Convinced yet? ... or have I just confused you? :)> > >> > > To blank the first sector you can either:> > > - wipe the card using one of the tools in RR> > > http://www.marcusbrutus.soho.on.net/blog/wp-gallery2.php?g2_itemId=2434&> > > or> > > - # dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=1 of=/dev/sda> > > ( where sda is YOUR SD card dev node ... change to suit)> > >> > > Right, so after all that (first coffee is starting to take effect)> > > I suggest you try a freshly formatted card. I will add, however,> > > that the problem *could* be far more sinister, so if you have> > > further problems *PLEASE* attach the RR-syslog.gz from a failed> > > installation attempt so that I can help you further.> > >> > > Marcus.> > >> > >> > >> > > Richard Tonda wrote:> > > >> > > > I agree, but the docs I have indicate that the process will take > > the existing SD (as long as it has a partition table--which it does) and > > create a partition in which to put LINUX. Are you saying I need to > > partition it ahead of time...normally that would be no issue, but how do > > you do that on an SD drive in LINUX? Or on POCKET_PC? The option does > > not seem to be available...> > > >> > > > Thanks for your help, by the way...> > > >> > > > rick> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ----------------------------------------> > > >> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 01:37:53 +1000> > > >> From: marcusbrutus@internode.on.net> > > >> To: rtonda@hotmail.com> > > >> CC: h4100-port@handhelds.org> > > >> Subject: Re: [H4100-port] filesystem error on HP4155> > > >>> > > >> Hi Richard,> > > >>> > > >> Without knowing exactly what the problem is (the RR-syslog.gz> > > >> might help), my guess would be that your card is not partitioned.> > > >>> > > >> Marcus.> > > >>> > > >> Richard Tonda wrote:> > > >>> Good morning,> > > >>>> > > >>> I have been trying to launch LINUX on my HP iPAQ (4155), using > > the instructions and files referred to on the web page below:> > > >>>> > > >>> http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/RamdiskRescue> > > >>>> > > >>> The haret program works well, apparently, and I get to the > > RAMDISK step where I install LINUX. The process starts, but it gets to > > the evaluation of the file system and invariably states there is not a > > valid filesystem. I have retrieved the files from the indicated website, > > and the layout is as shown on the website.> > > >>>> > > >>> Any ideas?> > > >>>> > > >>> Thanks,> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> Rick> >