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Jack Dodds wrote:
> Hello Morgan,
>
> It seems you are not the only one having problems with a "card boot", so
> I am taking the liberty of posting this to the forum.
Good to know I've got company;)
...
> Secure Digital card. I have used both CF (like you) and SD (like him)
> successfully.
>
> I'm wondering if possibly there's some hardware difference in some of
> the h2200s?
Well, I've been listening to this list long enough to know there are. I
guess the question is how to debug the hardware?
>
> Another possibility is that there's a difference in the memory cards.
> The ones I am using have a relatively small capacity and are quite old.
> Or maybe the newer, faster chips draw more power supply current than the
> h2200 can provide, or there is some other incompatibility.
I am using a fairly new (couple of months old) largish capacity (4GB)
Transcend "133x" - so, I guess there's a difference there. Though the
4GB have been round for a while - one reason I got it rather than
anything bigger.
Anyone else had any experience with these cards?
>
> And still another thing to try - I originally used haret-0.3.8, months
> ago. It gave the "bloodshot eyes penguin" display while booting. On my
> h2200, the current haret-0.5-1 does not give this display though the
> wiki says it should. Maybe you should try with haret-0.3.8. I put it
> in http://cyberspirit.dyndns.org:81/%7Ejack/familiarsetup/ with the
> other files.
I tried haret-0.3.8 as suggested. Got the red thermometer rising to the
top and the penguins eyes turning to blood-shot, all in a matter of
seconds. Then it's as I described below - in fact, it's pretty much
ditto as I described below, but read "nice penguin graphics" (red
thermometer & blood-shot eyes etc) for "linux booting text":
>> I get a linux booting text, the screen dims (still with the
>> text) then goes blank (with the back-light apparently still on,
>> there's one little pixel glowing blue at the bottom of the screen)
> What is your host system? Maybe a different host system handles the
> permissions differently so that the un-tar'ing of the system onto the
> memory card messes up the permissions.
fedora 8
[root_at_morgansmachine GPEBuild]# uname -r
2.6.24.5-85.fc8
[root_at_morgansmachine GPEBuild]# ls -l
total 128
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-08-18 12:30 bin
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-08-18 12:30 boot
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-08-18 12:23 dev
drwxr-xr-x 39 root root 4096 2006-08-18 12:30 etc
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2006-08-18 12:29 home
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2006-08-18 12:29 lib
drwx------ 2 root root 16384 2008-05-10 21:48 lost+found
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 2006-08-18 12:29 media
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-08-18 12:29 mnt
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-08-18 12:23 proc
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-08-18 12:30 sbin
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-08-18 12:23 sys
drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4096 2006-08-18 12:23 tmp
drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 4096 2006-05-27 12:08 usr
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2006-08-18 12:29 var
The whole of "ls -lR" is here:
http://www.read.org.nz/ls-lR.txt
>
> Yet another possibility - we use a lot of Compact Flash cards at my work
> and we have found that most are not reliable. They tend to lose a block
> here and there. We have to source premium cards from a company called
> Hagiwara, which uses only 100% pre-tested flash chips. The consumer
> grade cards are not 100% tested because it is too costly and the
> competition is fierce. Having said that, even the consumer grade cards
> only give a bad block after multiple complete reads and writes of the
> entire card.
If I hadn't re-portioned and re-formatted the CF card a few times now
and tried a few distros all with the same results I'd be more inclined
to suspect the media.
Is there any chance linux is lurking somewhere behind the screen and
some unsupported hardware is preventing it from poking its head up?
Any ideas and pointers much appreciated.
Regards,
Morgan.
>
> Good luck
>
> Jack Dodds
>
> Morgan Read wrote:
>> Hello Jack
>>
>> The page is awesome! I knew this had to be as easy as 1,2,3...
>>
>> Now for the bad news... As I said, I knew this had to be as easy as
>> 1,2,3 and I'm sure it is and now I'm convinced that I've got some sort
>> of dodgy hardware or something weird - just like trying to boot
>> Angstrom originally from LAB and my previous experience with Familiar
>> & HaRET - I get a linux booting text, the screen dims (still with the
>> text) then goes blank (with the back-light apparently still on,
>> there's one little pixel glowing blue at the bottom of the screen). :(
>>
>> So, here I am, it's been 15 minutes so far. Still the same screen.
>> I'm going to bed and will see if there's any change in the morning.
>>
>> Thanks for all your time and help - that page is truly awesome
>>
>> I don't know what you'd suggest - do you know of any hardware checks?
>>
>> The serial # is a bit different in form to yours: TWC342366J
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Morgan.
>>
>> Jack Dodds wrote:
>>> Hello Morgan,
>>>
>>> Let me know how this works for you:
>>>
>>> http://cyberspirit.dyndns.org:81/~jack/familiarsetup/h2200familiarhowto.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Jack Dodds
>>>
>>>
>
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