RE: More dirt on the h2215 Org. Bootloader

I didn't know that this list was international, just so you know all the
prices I quoted were US Dollars. And like you said any cradles, cables,
chargers or devices that connect to ANY iPAQs I can think of can also
connect to the h2200 series. They seemed to have used the same connector
across the line.

David Eugene Waybright
HCG Computer Support Technician
Certified CompTIA A+ & NET+ Technician

-----Original Message-----
From: Marcus Brown [mailto:marcusbrutus_at_internode.on.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 10:23 AM
To: waybright, david
Subject: Re: [H2200-port] More dirt on the h2215 Org. Bootloader

Thanks for the info David!

Unfortunately it's a little different in Tasmania (Australia).
Freight is expensive, and $au doesn't go far.
I'll prob go for your advice, however, and get a similar cable.
(I think I saw a 3800series one at officeworks a while back)
(Prob. a Belkin or Targus)
However, I have several large expenses coming up so it'll have
to wait for a little while :(.

Marcus

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 09:05:21 -0500
"waybright, david" <dewaybright_at_co.ha.md.us> wrote:

> Actually the cable I have (Belkin Y Serial/USB cable) is cheaper then
> most cradles I see on E-Bay. I think E-Bay is selling the cradles around
> $30 or$40 Plus Shipping where the cable is $19.99 with FREE shipping from
> www.BestBuy.com and you get the best of THREE world's: USB Connection,
> Serial Connection, and Charging over the USB port. This cable looks to
> allow both connections at once, one of my friends said that all the iPAQs
> should be just about the same cradle connector and have both a USB port &
> a Serial port at the cradle connector, not just one port that needs
> either software or hardware to actually switch it from USB to Serial.
> This means the Belkin cable is putting USB on its pins and Serial on its
> pins. I would rather buy the cable then dealing with paying someone on
> E-Bay a shipping fee plus $30 for a cradle or paying for the parts to
> build one myself.
>
> The best thing about it is that the cable has a "Lifetime" warranty where
> as the cradles on E-Bay proably have no warranty.
>
> My dad actually got mine at the store rather then online at
> www.BestBuy.com but you could do either one.
>
> Excerpt from:
>
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1051384538078&skuId=4745896&type=
> product
>
> ==Start Excerpt==
> Our Price: $19.99
> Free Shipping
> Warranty Terms - Parts Lifetime
>
> Belkin Y-Combo Sync Cable for Compaq iPAQ H3800 Series
> Model: F8Q2101
>
> This easy going Y-combo cable with dual USB and serial connectors lets
> you sync data with virtually any host desktop or notebook PC, giving you
> widespread compatibility while traveling.
>
> Product Features
> Single-cable solution with USB and DB9 serial connectors
> Quickly syncs data between pocket PC and most Windows-based computers
> Mobile, space-saving design
> For Compaq iPAQ H3800 series pocket PCs
> Product Details
> Compatibility iPAQ h3800 series pocket PCs
> Features Synchronizes between PC and handheld
> ==End Excerpt==
>
> David Eugene Waybright
> Harford County Government Computer Support Technician
> Certified CompTIA A+ & NET+ Technician
> dewaybright_at_co.ha.md.us
> Phone: (410)-638-3457
> Fax: (410)-893-8305
> 220 South Main Street
> Bel Air, Maryland 21014
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marcus Brown [mailto:marcusbrutus_at_internode.on.net]
> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:51 AM
> To: waybright, david
> Cc: h2200-port_at_handhelds.org
> Subject: Re: [H2200-port] More dirt on the h2215 Org. Bootloader
>
> Thanks David,
>
> Not sure if I have got as far as a (concrete) goal yet:)
> But a usable serial port option would be handy for the h2200-port (IMHO).
> I'm also trying to avoid spending more $ (yup, $ are a bit tight atm;)
> I was interested that you've managed to get your cable producing output,
> as it gives us yet another method for diags/etc; hence my interest in
> it's wiring (and the possibility to have a serial cradle for my non-usb
> laptop).
> I may even end up making my own cradle (if I get that bored!).
> From that point of view, do you know which models have the same connector
> as the h2200? If I can find a cheap cradle somewhere it'd be nice to be
> able to buy it without testing mypaq in it 1st! (ie. online/ebay/etc).
> Serial-only would suffice for my purposes.
> Alternatively, I understand that it's possible to buy the connector from
> somewhere like Foxconn (?), but I've not gone down that road yet.
>
> Regards,
>
> Marcus.
>
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 08:06:39 -0500
> "waybright, david" <dewaybright_at_co.ha.md.us> wrote:
>
> > What is your goal, I'm kind of lost with what your tring to do. If you
> > help clear it up I might be able to help better.
> >
> > David Eugene Waybright
> > HCG Computer Support Technician
> > Certified CompTIA A+ & NET+ Technician
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marcus Brown [mailto:marcusbrutus_at_internode.on.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 1:29 AM
> > To: waybright, david
> > Cc: h2200-port_at_handhelds.org
> > Subject: Re: [H2200-port] More dirt on the h2215 Org. Bootloader
> >
> > Hmmm, rats.
> > Oh well, I might have a tinker with my h2200 cradle and see what I can
> > find. At least I can always get either a USB/serial converter (might
> > come in handy for something else:), the Targus/HP/Belkin lead, or
> > modify a 39xx-cradle off ebay if necessary (what other cradle types
> > have same connector?).
> >
> > Marcus.
> >
> > [I like having choices, not making them~;/
> >
> > On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 14:37:35 -0500
> > "waybright, david" <dewaybright_at_co.ha.md.us> wrote:
> >
> > > Want to see if everyone is on the same page. I know you can destroy
> > > an old iPAQ cradle to make a serial cable. I also know that HP sells
> > > a Serial/USB cable just like the Belkin one I have. My Belkin cable
> > > is pretty much molded in a fashion where I don't really want to break
> > > it open to see how it's wired up.
> > >
> > > One thing I know about the wiring up part is the fact that I've been
> > > told that the USB & Serial sides of the Dual cable are actually
> > > connecting to there own sets of pins on the cradle port at the bottom
> > > of the iPAQ, basically the bottom connector should have both ports
> > > with there individual wires down there. The person who told me this
> > > reminded me of the Palm m505/m515 which had both ports running thru
> > > the same pins on the bottom connector which required a crystal or
> > > chip of some sort in the cradle to tell the Palm to kick into USB or
> > > Serial modes.
> > >
> > > Here is the process I went thru. I am also sorry that I mention
> > > windows so much but I did this just "this" morning at work with the
> > > windows machine that we have at our desks (not allowed to load a
> > > stable OS on it, Linux). And just so you know I am a Linux guru and
> > > like using it over windows any day just like most of you. Hope it
> > > helps.
> > >
> > > == Begin Process==
> > > -Started Windows XP
> > > -Killed ActiveSync (thru Task Manager)
> > > -Started HyperTerminal
> > > -Told HyperTerminal correct COM port with 115,200 Baud, 8 Data, 1
> > > Stop, NO Parity, and Hardware Flow Control (the baud is the only
> > > default I had to change and it took me 2 three finger salutes and a
> > > scratch on the head to change it. It was set at 2,400 by default)
> > > -Told HyperTerminal to connect
> > > -Plugged in a SanDisk 128 MB CompactFlash Card & Panasonic 16 MB SD
> > > Card-hooked Dual cable to iPAQ
> > > -plugged SERIAL side of dual cable into computer (sometimes the
> > > active sync client that is on the PocketPC will start to init the
> > > connection as if it was a ActiveSync port so just ignore the
> > > continuous CLIENT line that comes up in the terminal program. If it
> > > bugs you, you can tap the cancel button on the connection box that
> > > pops up on the PocketPC but remember it doesn't matter.
> > > -Did the three finger salute (held Power, Contacts, and Reset)
> > > -Output:
> > > On iPAQ=
> > >
> > > Serial
> > >
> > > (HP Logo)
> > >
> > > v1.08
> > >
> > > On Terminal= Output in previous post
> > > -Left the Serial side of dual cable plugged in computer and
> > > additionally plugged in the USB side of the dual cable
> > > -Output:
> > > On iPAQ=
> > >
> > > USB
> > >
> > > (HP Logo)
> > >
> > > v1.08
> > >
> > > On Terminal (Stops excepting input from serial console & I don't
> > > have a USB Terminal to check that side of things)=
> > >
> > > +SA_USB_Init
> > > -SA_USB_Init
> > >
> > > -Unplugged USB side of Dual cable from computer leaving the Serial
> > > side plugged in
> > > -Output:
> > > On iPAQ=
> > >
> > > Serial
> > >
> > > (HP Logo)
> > >
> > > v1.08
> > >
> > > On Terminal=
> > >
> > > *** Serial port was re-initialized due to unexpected problem ***
> > >
> > > SER>
> > >
> > > ==End Process==
> > >
> > > David Eugene Waybright
> > > HCG Computer Support Technician
> > > Certified CompTIA A+ & NET+ Technician
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Marcus Brown [mailto:marcusbrutus_at_internode.on.net]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 12:55 PM
> > > To: Michael Opdenacker
> > > Cc: waybright, david; h2200-port_at_handhelds.org
> > > Subject: Re: [H2200-port] More dirt on the h2215 Org. Bootloader
> > >
> > > Michael!
> > >
> > > I've mentioned this cable a couple of times before :/
> > > Has HP part number 'n' all! (but not off top of head!)
> > > (It wouldn't surprise me to see Targus written all over it)
> > > This is the one I mentioned before CF and IrDA were
> > > discussed re: booting & console ability.
> > > I'm so glad to hear that it does actually work!
> > > So this is the cable I should have bought rather than the
> > > 'Retractable Sync Cable' in the 'H2200 User Kit'
> > > (also Targus branded)
> > > (which have 3xstylii that dont fit the reset anyway!)
> > >
> > > Nice work David!
> > > I wonder if wiring-up a usb-socket directly to a db9m
> > > would be successfull? If that's the case, then there
> > > should be direct links between both serial and usb
> > > adapters on that Targus cable (without additional chip
> > > intelligence .. try forward & aft diode testing on each
> > > connection:)
> > > Can you give me matching pins from USB==>DB9M==>USB????
> > > (and check for diode junctions?)
> > > Thx
> > >
> > > Marcus.
> > >
> > > On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:45:09 +0100
> > > Michael Opdenacker <zumbi3_at_free.fr> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Doh! I didn't know that HP sold such a cable!
> > > > I wouldn't have disassembled my h3970 cradle if I had known...
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, I updated our pages so that people know that this option
> > > > exists...
> > >
> > > Nice1
> > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Michael.
> > > >
> > > > > Yeah, I know this is the same cable but my dad got this one for
> > > > > me for Christmas so I didn't complain.
> > >
> > > We didn't, just guessing ;)
> > >
> > > > > I've noticed that there are locked options and when I try the
> > > > > "password" command it's expecting 4 digits, I tried the suggested
> > > > > CPQHAMMER from the doc in the archives about this subject but it
> > > > > took it as MMER and didn't work.
> > >
> > > hmmm ... password?
> > > I think I'm liking LAB still :)
> > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > David Waybright
> > > > > Computer Support Technician
> > > > > HCG
> > > > > Certified CompTIA A+ & NET+ Technician
> > >
> > >
> > > Marcus.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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