Re: Cross-compiling server(s) for pxa(arm) development

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:07:14 -0500
Gwyneth <ipaq@toadware.ca> wrote:

> Marcus Brown wrote:
>
> >Hmmmm...
> >
> >
> >I run debian for all remotely accessible machines. (by principle alone)
> >
> The idea for me was to be able to woipe and reinstall the HD remotely,
> works great.

That makes sense, good idea. I haven't got anything running remotely
because:
http://www.users.on.net/marcusbrutus/images/computers/LN_VI.3-20030812_75p.jpg
so I haven't had to go that way (yet).
Although I may become a _heavy_ Gwynux user in the near future due to
certain(profitable) offers coming may way.

> >A 2nd rsynced server may be of use then
> >
> Actually that is an excellent idea. I must work thru that.
>
> >I'd like to have this problem resolved before I commit to this method.
> >
> Once again, the problem is not on the server, its my desktop here in
> the office.
>
> >I understand the power of your system, however I do not trust cd-roms
> >(they age faster than a flopy drive IMHO). HDD bootable is my
> >preference. Apt packaging(ie. pref Debian) is my preferred option in
> >_almost_ all cases. Fedora is the closest thing to redhat that i run,
> >and the reason I like it is coz it has an apt based package system
> >(synaptic).
> >
> Tell me about fedora if you have the time (offline possibly)
> I hear good things about debian but I have been using Gwynux 3 years or
> so. I did use slackware before. Actually the cdrom seems to have held up
> a few years.

Fedora was originally a separate project, but prob could now be classed
as 'Turbo Redhat'. Just do a basic google and you'll know everything I do.
Just make sure you install synaptic (do a search for that too).
Wicked package management. Can be used on many os's
It's not the cdrom itself that concerns me, it's the drive mechanism.
I do a lot of repair work, and have a LARGE pile of stuffed cd-roms.
Problems range from blown electronics, to simple focus problems,
to broken gear mechanisms. Once loaded into ram however, I'd imagine
this would be great. Ever thought about fitting it all on a 512MB CF
card? ... nah too expensive atm ... forget that idea.

> >
> >
> >I'm sure this could be overcome with a lot of maintenance, however I
> >believe that a common server that is constantly updated via cvs to be a
> >vastly better option. This would naturally mean that snapshots could be
> >taken for cd's if required. I think your method (although it has merits)
> >is putting the cart b4 the horse.
> >
> The purpouse of the cd really, is to avoid installing and to allow
> remote access to
> a system where you can install completely remotely. I also use it in
> situations where I
> want linux but can't install it on the target machine.rescue, customer
> sites etc.

I might have to build another machine to have a play with it.
Can I install without using a cd-rom on the target machine (ie. network
install from boot-floppy?)
see: http://www.users.on.net/marcusbrutus/computers.html for some of
the 'spare' gear I could play with. Can you point me to system requirements
etc?

> >Either way, it involves network access.
> >
> >
> yep
>
> >I agree totally with your sentiments.
> >
> And I with yours.
>
> >
> >
> >
> >I like the way you think, and although some in this group seem to be
> >getting impatient with our discussions, my basic opinion is: they can
> >bloody wait until a suitable solution that solves _all_ requirements is
> >found.(Keep in mind we are _all_ new to this!)
> >
> >
> Its not really that important to me, I am interested in the discussion
> but which ever
> you choose to do is really fine with me. If I can help, thats fine too.

Gwyneth, I can assure you that you are more qualified to make a decision in
this arena. I'm a hacker in the true sense. I have 25yrs experience and no
qualifications. I feel very nervous about making decisions about things
where I am outclassed by the majority.

> >I seem to remember you (or somebody) expressing concern about having the
> >same base kernel as the uml sessions use. This is not the case.
> >If you have not absorbed the last link I sent re this subject, I believe
> >the best person to talk to is ichilton (in #hh.org) [[ian]].
> >Please speak to him before we discuss this further.
> >
> It wasn't me, I just am learning about it. It seems like a good idea.
>
> >>Gwyneth
> >>
> >>
> >>BTW I will be away next week (leaving tomorrow) and likely not have
> >>net access at all.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Have fun, talk to you when you return.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Hope everyone has a Happy holiday and I will be working offline.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >You too, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
> >
> >Marcus.
> >
>
>
>
Marcus
Received on Sat Dec 20 17:25:40 2003