Re: enhancing ipks

Here's some traffic on the state of the Gnome panel. Dunno what the right
thing is to do under the circumstances. We'll need to fix gtk's menus
in any case....
                                - Jim

> -------- Message 1 of 4, ID = 437.353
> From: jg_at_pa.dec.com (Jim Gettys)
> Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 09:45:56 -0700 (PDT)
> To: Vladimir Vukicevic <vladimir_at_ximian.com>
> Subject: Gnome panel on the iPAQ...
> -----
> Have you folks tried the gnome panel on the iPAQ? If so, how is it?
>
> - Jim
>
> --
> Jim Gettys
> Technology and Corporate Development
> Compaq Computer Corporation
> jg_at_pa.dec.com

> -------- Message 2 of 4, ID = 437.398
> From: jacob berkman <jacob_at_ximian.com>
> Date: 16 May 2001 13:41:36 -0400
> To: Vladimir Vukicevic <vladimir_at_ximian.com>
> Cc: Jim Gettys <jg_at_pa.dec.com>
> Subject: Re: Gnome panel on the iPAQ...
> -----
> On 16 May 2001 12:59:48 -0400, Vladimir Vukicevic wrote:
> > On 16 May 2001 09:45:56 -0700, Jim Gettys wrote:
> > > Have you folks tried the gnome panel on the iPAQ? If so, how is it?
>
> it runs, but is difficult to use. it really wants to have 3 mouse
> buttons. the various submenus are also difficult on the small screen,
> and gtk menus don't really handle the pen all that nicely.
>
> there's no reason this stuff can't be fixed, but it also might be easier
> to just write a new panel which doesn't have such a horrible code base.
>
> jacob
> --
> In the afterlife, a cute .signature will only get you so far.

> -------- Message 3 of 4, ID = 437.404
> From: jg_at_pa.dec.com (Jim Gettys)
> Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 10:52:18 -0700 (PDT)
> To: jacob berkman <jacob_at_ximian.com>
> Cc: Vladimir Vukicevic <vladimir_at_ximian.com>, Jim Gettys <jg_at_pa.dec.com>
> Subject: Re: Gnome panel on the iPAQ...
> -----
> So you say the code base sucks, eh?
>
>
> The problem is, we need something like it, and would nice to share code
> and conventions with gnome/kde on menus...
>
> Have any idea how much work a rewrite would take? How big is it,
> anyway (lines of code)?
> - Jim
> --
> Jim Gettys
> Technology and Corporate Development
> Compaq Computer Corporation
> jg_at_pa.dec.com

> From: jacob berkman <jacob_at_ximian.com>
> Date: 16 May 2001 14:03:41 -0400
> To: Jim Gettys <jg_at_pa.dec.com>
> Cc: Vladimir Vukicevic <vladimir_at_ximian.com>
> Subject: Re: Gnome panel on the iPAQ...
> -----
> On 16 May 2001 10:52:18 -0700, Jim Gettys wrote:
> > So you say the code base sucks, eh?
>
> it does :)
>
> > The problem is, we need something like it, and would nice to share code
> > and conventions with gnome/kde on menus...
> >
> > Have any idea how much work a rewrite would take? How big is it,
> > anyway (lines of code)?
>
> the current panel is huge:
>
> jacob_at_wet-pants:panel$ grep ";" *.[ch] | wc -l
> 20822
>
> i started playing with a rewrite of the panel a week or so ago. it
> should be a lot easier, as bonobo handles a lot of the stuff the old
> panel was trying to do. but there are a lot of unsolved things and the
> current panel has a ton of features.
>
> so, if gtk menus were fixed up (which kinda needs to be done anyway) and
> the 3 mouse button problems were resolved, the current panel is probably
> the easiest thing to deal with (as sad as that is).
>
> jacob
> --
> In the afterlife, a cute .signature will only get you so far.

--
Jim Gettys
Technology and Corporate Development
Compaq Computer Corporation
jg_at_pa.dec.com