Re: Still alive?

Hi Nick !

Logins by root and some such accounts are forbidden so you can try to
login to your system first as a normal user,
and then try anonymous ftp if it's about that !

Mikko

Mikko Silvennoinen wrote:
> Hi nick !
>
> Anonymous should work !
> But try with this link:
>
> ftp://pwar.net
>
> or
>
> ftp://82.215.213.82
>
> Mikko
>
>
> nick jaksic wrote:
>> Mikko,
>>
>> I tested you ftp with anonymous login but no good. is there a
>> login? let me know.
>>
>> nick
>>
>> Mikko Silvennoinen wrote:
>>> Hi all !
>>>
>>> I haven't configured anything for Axim yet. For normal PC I last
>>> used newest kernel from http://www.linuxkernel.org , but now there
>>> was only advertisements. Anyway in some other projects they have
>>> said this is a good kernel.
>>> So I will put this and some random patches etc. stuff from there and
>>> elsewhere to my (probably temporary) ftp-site, and some Axim stuff,
>>> that is from the handhelds website and elsewhere.
>>> I remind, and make a disclaimer now that the Axim stuff and possibly
>>> others are experimental, and
>>> there is no responsibility taken for any possible damages of the use
>>> of any of this stuff, and
>>> that the use of this stuff may cause the Dell quarantees or other
>>> quarantees to expire.
>>> So use of these are at your own risk, and I recommend to make
>>> backups of everything, including bios, and
>>> make sure, that you can restore the bios and everything else, in
>>> case of trouble.
>>> The use of those is discribed in some other different places in the
>>> web. Don't use anything, if you don't know
>>> what it is and how it is supposed to be used, and the disclaimer
>>> applies to this too, no responsibility taken of anything.
>>> This is meant for the use of the Axim SD-card linux boot project only !
>>> Mainly those who can do actual work on the kernel.
>>>
>>> Try from here
>>>
>>> ftp://ftp.pwar.net
>>>
>>> Let me know if the link don't work.
>>>
>>> Mikko Silvennoinen
>>>
>>>
>>> Joe Belford wrote:
>>>> I agree, I like the idea of a live CD, when I first started working
>>>> with this I used the debian live CD as a development environment.
>>>> I also agree that the touchscreen needs to be the main effort. How
>>>> active is development of the handhelds.org <http://handhelds.org>
>>>> kernel, it seems they're a little behind, I know newer isn't always
>>>> better but I thought there was some touchscreen work done in linux
>>>> 2.6.22. <http://2.6.22.> Is there any value added in looking into
>>>> a newer kernel before we put a lot of effort into this? Otherwise,
>>>> were is a good starting point for the touchscreen work? ts-adc.c?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Mikko Silvennoinen <mikko_at_pwar.net
>>>> <mailto:mikko_at_pwar.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jeroen !
>>>>
>>>> Thank God for you !
>>>> It would be great if you could look into it, because it seems we
>>>> have stuck to this
>>>> problem and no one had a good glue how to solve it.
>>>> I think solving the touch screen problem would kick this project
>>>> really forward a big time.
>>>>
>>>> About the loop file-system and SD-card:
>>>> I think it is not yet time for that, because the problems we are
>>>> having with the touch screen.
>>>> When the graphical interface works ok, it migth be one way to add
>>>> to the project.
>>>> But I would like to promote linux also in general, and I think
>>>> the best way
>>>> is to start with a good bootable dvd or cd with a loop-filesystem.
>>>> That's why I suggested to use the Kanotix live-cd. That is the
>>>> best one, where
>>>> usb also works well, and it is optimized for 586-processor which
>>>> makes it incredibly fast, but
>>>> works with most machines now in use (no need for a 64-bit
>>>> processor yet,
>>>> and works well also with new flat screens,
>>>> and there is a big variety of boot options with a graphical boot
>>>> menu, and there is
>>>> programs for bluetooth and network configuration etc. in
>>>> KDE-graphical interface.
>>>> It's now my choice for base of my next bootable dvd-project. It
>>>> is based on KNOPPIX,
>>>> and both are Debian-based, so basicly everything that is
>>>> instructed on the web-site
>>>> applies as such.
>>>> One way, that I recommend, would be to make an own
>>>> Kanotix-based bootable dvd for this
>>>> Axim SD-card linux boot development project. It would be quite
>>>> easy e.g. for me to add this stuff
>>>> to my next dvd iso-image.
>>>>
>>>> One way to build a bootable live iso image from your own linux
>>>> system fast is
>>>> to install LiveBackup which is a program and set of tools to do
>>>> that .
>>>> I think it was found from SourceForge.
>>>> It would be a fast and easy errorfree way to send a entire
>>>> working development setup in a single file.
>>>>
>>>> It is not hard for a Windows user to burn an iso image to dvd
>>>> e.g. with Nero.
>>>> I could even convert the file to Nero's native format, if
>>>> finding iso format from Nero with a
>>>> mouse is overwhelming.
>>>>
>>>> At least Windows users download from:
>>>> http://www.kanotix.org/changelang-eng.html
>>>>
>>>> Mikko Silvennoinen
>>>> Jeroen Dierckx wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Dominic Laberge
>>>>> <doumlaberge_at_hotmail.com> <mailto:doumlaberge_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> theres a kernel image for x50 here (2006) by Jeroen 'JeDi'
>>>>>> Dierckx
>>>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't use these. They are very old, and don't have the
>>>>> features
>>>>> that were added since then (I believe the touchscreen isn't even
>>>>> working, because they were busy refactoring that part of the
>>>>> kernel
>>>>> code).
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have the time to put a lot of effort in this (we are
>>>>> moving
>>>>> towards the iphone at work, developing for windows mobile is
>>>>> becoming
>>>>> a too much pita), but I am still very interested in this project.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Some thoughts though:
>>>>>
>>>>> In my time, we created a method where we would just create an
>>>>> image
>>>>> and put that as file on a normal FAT16/32 SD card. We used an
>>>>> initrd
>>>>> that had the fat and loop file systems in it, and mounted the
>>>>> linux
>>>>> image using the loop device. This is a lot easier to deal with
>>>>> for
>>>>> non-linux people, because they don't have to use linux to
>>>>> partition
>>>>> the SD card, don't have to understand the linux device file
>>>>> system
>>>>> etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know what some guys will think: "If you don't know these
>>>>> things, you
>>>>> aren't going to help much with the project", but that is not
>>>>> true.
>>>>> There are two parts of developing this port: developing and
>>>>> testing/hacking. Non-linux, non-programming people can still
>>>>> help with
>>>>> the second part, where config files, background images with
>>>>> incorrect
>>>>> resolution, ...have to be checked and modified. If we would
>>>>> provide a
>>>>> couple of files that they can just copy to their SD card in
>>>>> windows
>>>>> and start linux from their device, we would reach a lot bigger
>>>>> audience.
>>>>>
>>>>> Generating the images is a bit of a hassle though, so actual
>>>>> development, where you have to recompile stuff and replace a
>>>>> lot of
>>>>> files, is probably easier using the normal method. For this,
>>>>> we used
>>>>> the usb filesystem (again built into the initrd) and mount the
>>>>> root
>>>>> filesystem over usb using NFS. This takes a while to set up,
>>>>> but once
>>>>> you got it, you can just develop, compile, and run. No image
>>>>> creation
>>>>> of SD card copying involved.
>>>>>
>>>>> So in short, we should make it easier for non-programmer or less
>>>>> technical people to be involved in this project, because it
>>>>> seems that
>>>>> a lot of people want to help but don't know how. So there
>>>>> should be a
>>>>> list of non-programmer issues that these people can have a
>>>>> look at,
>>>>> and an easy (not involving booting to linux, because that
>>>>> stops a lot
>>>>> of those people) way to do this.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the touchscreen though, I think there will be some
>>>>> programming
>>>>> involved. I didn't follow this closely enough to know this for
>>>>> sure,
>>>>> but it seems that the offset for the touchscreen is not always
>>>>> the
>>>>> same, so it isn't just changing some settings or one value.
>>>>> There's
>>>>> probably an interpolation algorithm that's wrong in the
>>>>> touchscreen
>>>>> code.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would want to test this stuff in a couple of days, when I
>>>>> can find
>>>>> some spare time, so is there an updated webpage somewhere with
>>>>> the
>>>>> current features, problems and an explanation how to build
>>>>> this port
>>>>> (which kernel sources, what patches, what distribution)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetz,
>>>>> JeDi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 08:23:28 +0300
>>>>>> From: mikko_at_pwar.net <mailto:mikko_at_pwar.net>
>>>>>> To: aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org
>>>>>> <mailto:aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Joe !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By all means do the image with your kernel, but test it first
>>>>>> and let know
>>>>>> how well it works.
>>>>>> Remember to name it so that it is clear, that it is for X50
>>>>>> and on what
>>>>>> kernel version, and that it is patched test version.
>>>>>> If you also could make a patch-file for the kernel about the
>>>>>> patches you
>>>>>> possibly made, and a text file explaining for what they are.
>>>>>> (making a patch file: in linux console type diff --help and
>>>>>> you see what you
>>>>>> can do (compare all files in the
>>>>>> changed source and the original source so, that the output is
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> differences in a ed script format that will change the
>>>>>> original as patched
>>>>>> version, I think and name it as whatname.patch. The output
>>>>>> format can be
>>>>>> attchieved with --ed option, -r option makes it recursively
>>>>>> go thrue all subdirectories. To test the patch file copy the
>>>>>> patch-file to
>>>>>> the original source directory and in
>>>>>> linux console type: patch -p1 --dry-run <
>>>>>> /path/to/kernelsource/whatname.patch
>>>>>> e.g. patch -pl --dry-run <
>>>>>> /home/joe/hanheldskernel/touchscreenfix1.patch
>>>>>> If there is not reported problems with the dry run it is
>>>>>> possible that the
>>>>>> patch works.
>>>>>> After actually using it without the --dry-run option if diff
>>>>>> says the
>>>>>> resulting source is exactly like the one you are trying to
>>>>>> create,
>>>>>> it's ok. Does anyone know to recommend any fancier diff
>>>>>> options ? or have
>>>>>> the whole suitable command line figured out ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mikko Silvennoinen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe Belford wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Mikko, I'm working on the 20070316 image for the X50
>>>>>> but, I've
>>>>>> compiled my own kernel using the latest from handhelds.org
>>>>>> <http://handhelds.org> CVS. Currently
>>>>>> 2.6.21-hh20. I can put together an image for the x50 based
>>>>>> on the 200706
>>>>>> image and this compiled kernel. But before I do that I'd
>>>>>> like to make sure
>>>>>> it's cool with everyone, I don't want to start dumping a
>>>>>> bunch of hacked
>>>>>> images out there and making everyone lose faith in the project.
>>>>>> -Joe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:41 PM, GonzaloF
>>>>>> <gfalinux_at_gmail.com> <mailto:gfalinux_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2008/5/14 Dominic Laberge <doumlaberge_at_hotmail.com>
>>>>>> <mailto:doumlaberge_at_hotmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for those who need updated link check out the project wiki
>>>>>>> (linux x50v on
>>>>>>> google)
>>>>>>> i downloaded the image for x50v today and x50 image is also
>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>> the direct link is :
>>>>>>> http://projects.linuxtogo.org/~law/aximx50/
>>>>>>> <http://projects.linuxtogo.org/%7Elaw/aximx50/>
>>>>>>> peace
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> In
>>>>>> http://projects.linuxtogo.org/~law/aximx50/images/200706/aximx50/:
>>>>>> <http://projects.linuxtogo.org/%7Elaw/aximx50/images/200706/aximx50/:>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Index of /~law/aximx50/images/200706/aximx50
>>>>>> [ICO] Name Last modified Size Description
>>>>>> [DIR] Parent Directory -
>>>>>> Apache/2.2 Server at projects.linuxtogo.org
>>>>>> <http://projects.linuxtogo.org> Port 80
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no image available for x50!!! is this updated?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GonzaloF
>>>>>>
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