Re: Still alive?

From: Mikko Silvennoinen <mikko_at_pwar.net>
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 06:01:13 +0300

Hi nick !

Anonymous should work !
But try with this link:

    ftp://pwar.net

or

     ftp://82.215.213.82

Mikko

nick jaksic wrote:
> Mikko,
>
> I tested you ftp with anonymous login but no good. is there a login?
> let me know.
>
> nick
>
> Mikko Silvennoinen wrote:
>> Hi all !
>>
>> I haven't configured anything for Axim yet. For normal PC I last used
>> newest kernel from http://www.linuxkernel.org , but now there was
>> only advertisements. Anyway in some other projects they have said
>> this is a good kernel.
>> So I will put this and some random patches etc. stuff from there and
>> elsewhere to my (probably temporary) ftp-site, and some Axim stuff,
>> that is from the handhelds website and elsewhere.
>> I remind, and make a disclaimer now that the Axim stuff and possibly
>> others are experimental, and
>> there is no responsibility taken for any possible damages of the use
>> of any of this stuff, and
>> that the use of this stuff may cause the Dell quarantees or other
>> quarantees to expire.
>> So use of these are at your own risk, and I recommend to make backups
>> of everything, including bios, and
>> make sure, that you can restore the bios and everything else, in case
>> of trouble.
>> The use of those is discribed in some other different places in the
>> web. Don't use anything, if you don't know
>> what it is and how it is supposed to be used, and the disclaimer
>> applies to this too, no responsibility taken of anything.
>> This is meant for the use of the Axim SD-card linux boot project only !
>> Mainly those who can do actual work on the kernel.
>>
>> Try from here
>>
>> ftp://ftp.pwar.net
>>
>> Let me know if the link don't work.
>>
>> Mikko Silvennoinen
>>
>>
>> Joe Belford wrote:
>>> I agree, I like the idea of a live CD, when I first started working
>>> with this I used the debian live CD as a development environment. I
>>> also agree that the touchscreen needs to be the main effort. How
>>> active is development of the handhelds.org <http://handhelds.org>
>>> kernel, it seems they're a little behind, I know newer isn't always
>>> better but I thought there was some touchscreen work done in linux
>>> 2.6.22. <http://2.6.22.> Is there any value added in looking into a
>>> newer kernel before we put a lot of effort into this? Otherwise,
>>> were is a good starting point for the touchscreen work? ts-adc.c?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Mikko Silvennoinen <mikko_at_pwar.net
>>> <mailto:mikko_at_pwar.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jeroen !
>>>
>>> Thank God for you !
>>> It would be great if you could look into it, because it seems we
>>> have stuck to this
>>> problem and no one had a good glue how to solve it.
>>> I think solving the touch screen problem would kick this project
>>> really forward a big time.
>>>
>>> About the loop file-system and SD-card:
>>> I think it is not yet time for that, because the problems we are
>>> having with the touch screen.
>>> When the graphical interface works ok, it migth be one way to add
>>> to the project.
>>> But I would like to promote linux also in general, and I think
>>> the best way
>>> is to start with a good bootable dvd or cd with a loop-filesystem.
>>> That's why I suggested to use the Kanotix live-cd. That is the
>>> best one, where
>>> usb also works well, and it is optimized for 586-processor which
>>> makes it incredibly fast, but
>>> works with most machines now in use (no need for a 64-bit
>>> processor yet,
>>> and works well also with new flat screens,
>>> and there is a big variety of boot options with a graphical boot
>>> menu, and there is
>>> programs for bluetooth and network configuration etc. in
>>> KDE-graphical interface.
>>> It's now my choice for base of my next bootable dvd-project. It
>>> is based on KNOPPIX,
>>> and both are Debian-based, so basicly everything that is
>>> instructed on the web-site
>>> applies as such.
>>> One way, that I recommend, would be to make an own Kanotix-based
>>> bootable dvd for this
>>> Axim SD-card linux boot development project. It would be quite
>>> easy e.g. for me to add this stuff
>>> to my next dvd iso-image.
>>>
>>> One way to build a bootable live iso image from your own linux
>>> system fast is
>>> to install LiveBackup which is a program and set of tools to do
>>> that .
>>> I think it was found from SourceForge.
>>> It would be a fast and easy errorfree way to send a entire
>>> working development setup in a single file.
>>>
>>> It is not hard for a Windows user to burn an iso image to dvd
>>> e.g. with Nero.
>>> I could even convert the file to Nero's native format, if
>>> finding iso format from Nero with a
>>> mouse is overwhelming.
>>>
>>> At least Windows users download from:
>>> http://www.kanotix.org/changelang-eng.html
>>>
>>> Mikko Silvennoinen
>>> Jeroen Dierckx wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Dominic Laberge
>>>> <doumlaberge_at_hotmail.com> <mailto:doumlaberge_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> theres a kernel image for x50 here (2006) by Jeroen 'JeDi'
>>>>> Dierckx
>>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't use these. They are very old, and don't have the
>>>> features
>>>> that were added since then (I believe the touchscreen isn't even
>>>> working, because they were busy refactoring that part of the
>>>> kernel
>>>> code).
>>>>
>>>> I don't have the time to put a lot of effort in this (we are
>>>> moving
>>>> towards the iphone at work, developing for windows mobile is
>>>> becoming
>>>> a too much pita), but I am still very interested in this project.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Some thoughts though:
>>>>
>>>> In my time, we created a method where we would just create an
>>>> image
>>>> and put that as file on a normal FAT16/32 SD card. We used an
>>>> initrd
>>>> that had the fat and loop file systems in it, and mounted the
>>>> linux
>>>> image using the loop device. This is a lot easier to deal with for
>>>> non-linux people, because they don't have to use linux to
>>>> partition
>>>> the SD card, don't have to understand the linux device file system
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> I know what some guys will think: "If you don't know these
>>>> things, you
>>>> aren't going to help much with the project", but that is not true.
>>>> There are two parts of developing this port: developing and
>>>> testing/hacking. Non-linux, non-programming people can still
>>>> help with
>>>> the second part, where config files, background images with
>>>> incorrect
>>>> resolution, ...have to be checked and modified. If we would
>>>> provide a
>>>> couple of files that they can just copy to their SD card in
>>>> windows
>>>> and start linux from their device, we would reach a lot bigger
>>>> audience.
>>>>
>>>> Generating the images is a bit of a hassle though, so actual
>>>> development, where you have to recompile stuff and replace a
>>>> lot of
>>>> files, is probably easier using the normal method. For this, we
>>>> used
>>>> the usb filesystem (again built into the initrd) and mount the
>>>> root
>>>> filesystem over usb using NFS. This takes a while to set up,
>>>> but once
>>>> you got it, you can just develop, compile, and run. No image
>>>> creation
>>>> of SD card copying involved.
>>>>
>>>> So in short, we should make it easier for non-programmer or less
>>>> technical people to be involved in this project, because it
>>>> seems that
>>>> a lot of people want to help but don't know how. So there
>>>> should be a
>>>> list of non-programmer issues that these people can have a look
>>>> at,
>>>> and an easy (not involving booting to linux, because that stops
>>>> a lot
>>>> of those people) way to do this.
>>>>
>>>> For the touchscreen though, I think there will be some programming
>>>> involved. I didn't follow this closely enough to know this for
>>>> sure,
>>>> but it seems that the offset for the touchscreen is not always the
>>>> same, so it isn't just changing some settings or one value.
>>>> There's
>>>> probably an interpolation algorithm that's wrong in the
>>>> touchscreen
>>>> code.
>>>>
>>>> I would want to test this stuff in a couple of days, when I can
>>>> find
>>>> some spare time, so is there an updated webpage somewhere with the
>>>> current features, problems and an explanation how to build this
>>>> port
>>>> (which kernel sources, what patches, what distribution)?
>>>>
>>>> Greetz,
>>>> JeDi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 08:23:28 +0300
>>>>> From: mikko_at_pwar.net <mailto:mikko_at_pwar.net>
>>>>> To: aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org
>>>>> <mailto:aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Joe !
>>>>>
>>>>> By all means do the image with your kernel, but test it first
>>>>> and let know
>>>>> how well it works.
>>>>> Remember to name it so that it is clear, that it is for X50
>>>>> and on what
>>>>> kernel version, and that it is patched test version.
>>>>> If you also could make a patch-file for the kernel about the
>>>>> patches you
>>>>> possibly made, and a text file explaining for what they are.
>>>>> (making a patch file: in linux console type diff --help and
>>>>> you see what you
>>>>> can do (compare all files in the
>>>>> changed source and the original source so, that the output is the
>>>>> differences in a ed script format that will change the
>>>>> original as patched
>>>>> version, I think and name it as whatname.patch. The output
>>>>> format can be
>>>>> attchieved with --ed option, -r option makes it recursively
>>>>> go thrue all subdirectories. To test the patch file copy the
>>>>> patch-file to
>>>>> the original source directory and in
>>>>> linux console type: patch -p1 --dry-run <
>>>>> /path/to/kernelsource/whatname.patch
>>>>> e.g. patch -pl --dry-run <
>>>>> /home/joe/hanheldskernel/touchscreenfix1.patch
>>>>> If there is not reported problems with the dry run it is
>>>>> possible that the
>>>>> patch works.
>>>>> After actually using it without the --dry-run option if diff
>>>>> says the
>>>>> resulting source is exactly like the one you are trying to
>>>>> create,
>>>>> it's ok. Does anyone know to recommend any fancier diff
>>>>> options ? or have
>>>>> the whole suitable command line figured out ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mikko Silvennoinen
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe Belford wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Mikko, I'm working on the 20070316 image for the X50
>>>>> but, I've
>>>>> compiled my own kernel using the latest from handhelds.org
>>>>> <http://handhelds.org> CVS. Currently
>>>>> 2.6.21-hh20. I can put together an image for the x50 based on
>>>>> the 200706
>>>>> image and this compiled kernel. But before I do that I'd like
>>>>> to make sure
>>>>> it's cool with everyone, I don't want to start dumping a bunch
>>>>> of hacked
>>>>> images out there and making everyone lose faith in the project.
>>>>> -Joe
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:41 PM, GonzaloF <gfalinux_at_gmail.com>
>>>>> <mailto:gfalinux_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 2008/5/14 Dominic Laberge <doumlaberge_at_hotmail.com>
>>>>> <mailto:doumlaberge_at_hotmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> for those who need updated link check out the project wiki
>>>>>> (linux x50v on
>>>>>> google)
>>>>>> i downloaded the image for x50v today and x50 image is also
>>>>>> available
>>>>>> the direct link is :
>>>>>> http://projects.linuxtogo.org/~law/aximx50/
>>>>>> <http://projects.linuxtogo.org/%7Elaw/aximx50/>
>>>>>> peace
>>>>>>
>>>>> In
>>>>> http://projects.linuxtogo.org/~law/aximx50/images/200706/aximx50/:
>>>>> <http://projects.linuxtogo.org/%7Elaw/aximx50/images/200706/aximx50/:>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Index of /~law/aximx50/images/200706/aximx50
>>>>> [ICO] Name Last modified Size Description
>>>>> [DIR] Parent Directory -
>>>>> Apache/2.2 Server at projects.linuxtogo.org
>>>>> <http://projects.linuxtogo.org> Port 80
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no image available for x50!!! is this updated?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks...
>>>>>
>>>>> GonzaloF
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>>
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