Re: Still alive?

Hey Jeroen!
How's that!? :p

This is the explanation i tried to do in a previous e-mail xD

I'm also looking forward on getting an iphone, or perhaps some
HTC,nokia n96, or something with Android... i just can't decide for
one until they come :p

Well, let's see if at last it's the true effort for putting linux on
x50/x51(v), in two weeks more or less i'll be less busy, so i hope i'm
able to spend some time with it :)

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Jeroen Dierckx
<jeroen.dierckx_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Dominic Laberge
> <doumlaberge_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
>> theres a kernel image for x50 here (2006) by Jeroen 'JeDi' Dierckx
>
> I wouldn't use these. They are very old, and don't have the features
> that were added since then (I believe the touchscreen isn't even
> working, because they were busy refactoring that part of the kernel
> code).
>
> I don't have the time to put a lot of effort in this (we are moving
> towards the iphone at work, developing for windows mobile is becoming
> a too much pita), but I am still very interested in this project.
>
>
> Some thoughts though:
>
> In my time, we created a method where we would just create an image
> and put that as file on a normal FAT16/32 SD card. We used an initrd
> that had the fat and loop file systems in it, and mounted the linux
> image using the loop device. This is a lot easier to deal with for
> non-linux people, because they don't have to use linux to partition
> the SD card, don't have to understand the linux device file system
> etc.
>
> I know what some guys will think: "If you don't know these things, you
> aren't going to help much with the project", but that is not true.
> There are two parts of developing this port: developing and
> testing/hacking. Non-linux, non-programming people can still help with
> the second part, where config files, background images with incorrect
> resolution, ...have to be checked and modified. If we would provide a
> couple of files that they can just copy to their SD card in windows
> and start linux from their device, we would reach a lot bigger
> audience.
>
> Generating the images is a bit of a hassle though, so actual
> development, where you have to recompile stuff and replace a lot of
> files, is probably easier using the normal method. For this, we used
> the usb filesystem (again built into the initrd) and mount the root
> filesystem over usb using NFS. This takes a while to set up, but once
> you got it, you can just develop, compile, and run. No image creation
> of SD card copying involved.
>
> So in short, we should make it easier for non-programmer or less
> technical people to be involved in this project, because it seems that
> a lot of people want to help but don't know how. So there should be a
> list of non-programmer issues that these people can have a look at,
> and an easy (not involving booting to linux, because that stops a lot
> of those people) way to do this.
>
> For the touchscreen though, I think there will be some programming
> involved. I didn't follow this closely enough to know this for sure,
> but it seems that the offset for the touchscreen is not always the
> same, so it isn't just changing some settings or one value. There's
> probably an interpolation algorithm that's wrong in the touchscreen
> code.
>
> I would want to test this stuff in a couple of days, when I can find
> some spare time, so is there an updated webpage somewhere with the
> current features, problems and an explanation how to build this port
> (which kernel sources, what patches, what distribution)?
>
> Greetz,
> JeDi
>
>
>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 08:23:28 +0300
>> From: mikko_at_pwar.net
>> To: aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org
>> Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
>>
>> Hi Joe !
>>
>> By all means do the image with your kernel, but test it first and let know
>> how well it works.
>> Remember to name it so that it is clear, that it is for X50 and on what
>> kernel version, and that it is patched test version.
>> If you also could make a patch-file for the kernel about the patches you
>> possibly made, and a text file explaining for what they are.
>> (making a patch file: in linux console type diff --help and you see what you
>> can do (compare all files in the
>> changed source and the original source so, that the output is the
>> differences in a ed script format that will change the original as patched
>> version, I think and name it as whatname.patch. The output format can be
>> attchieved with --ed option, -r option makes it recursively
>> go thrue all subdirectories. To test the patch file copy the patch-file to
>> the original source directory and in
>> linux console type: patch -p1 --dry-run <
>> /path/to/kernelsource/whatname.patch
>> e.g. patch -pl --dry-run < /home/joe/hanheldskernel/touchscreenfix1.patch
>> If there is not reported problems with the dry run it is possible that the
>> patch works.
>> After actually using it without the --dry-run option if diff says the
>> resulting source is exactly like the one you are trying to create,
>> it's ok. Does anyone know to recommend any fancier diff options ? or have
>> the whole suitable command line figured out ?
>>
>> Mikko Silvennoinen
>>
>> Joe Belford wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Mikko, I'm working on the 20070316 image for the X50 but, I've
>> compiled my own kernel using the latest from handhelds.org CVS. Currently
>> 2.6.21-hh20. I can put together an image for the x50 based on the 200706
>> image and this compiled kernel. But before I do that I'd like to make sure
>> it's cool with everyone, I don't want to start dumping a bunch of hacked
>> images out there and making everyone lose faith in the project.
>> -Joe
>>
>> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:41 PM, GonzaloF <gfalinux_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 2008/5/14 Dominic Laberge <doumlaberge_at_hotmail.com>:
>>> for those who need updated link check out the project wiki (linux x50v on
>>> google)
>>> i downloaded the image for x50v today and x50 image is also available
>>> the direct link is : http://projects.linuxtogo.org/~law/aximx50/
>>> peace
>>
>> In http://projects.linuxtogo.org/~law/aximx50/images/200706/aximx50/:
>>
>> Index of /~law/aximx50/images/200706/aximx50
>> [ICO] Name Last modified Size Description
>> [DIR] Parent Directory -
>> Apache/2.2 Server at projects.linuxtogo.org Port 80
>>
>> There is no image available for x50!!! is this updated?
>>
>> Thanks...
>>
>> GonzaloF
>>
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