Re: Still alive?

From: Mikko Silvennoinen <mikko_at_pwar.net>
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 23:30:56 +0300

Hey Joe !

Are you sure you have the rigth Ångsrtöm -image ?
It sounds like it could possibly be the one I am using for the
VGA-display, but if you
have X50, and try to use it, I think it could cause that kind of problem.
Make sure you have the one for X50.
It is easy to make a mistake.

Mikko Silvennoinen

Joe Belford wrote:
> Mikko,
> I'm working with an X50 not the V. I just picked it up again
> about 2 weeks ago and straightened out the framebuffer issue I was
> having. Everything was offset to the right about 10mm. I posted
> those findings to the mailing list. As for my touchscreen issues, I'm
> just getting into it, I currently can't make it past the calibration
> screen. dmesg tells me "Sample with too much jitter - ignored". My
> plan is to add a bit more debug code to try and understand what's
> going on. This is my first experience with touchscreens so plenty of
> growing pains
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Sonny <sonny73044_at_yahoo.com
> <mailto:sonny73044_at_yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the answer.... I will try again, been a couple months
> since I got the 50v
>
> If I remember right it was impossible to figure out the offset,
> one tap would show on one side of the display and the next tap in
> the same place would show on the other side.
>
> Will reply with results shortly if anyone wishes.
>
>
>
> --- On *Wed, 5/14/08, Mikko Silvennoinen /<mikko_at_pwar.net
> <mailto:mikko_at_pwar.net>>/* wrote:
>
> From: Mikko Silvennoinen <mikko_at_pwar.net <mailto:mikko_at_pwar.net>>
> Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
> To: "The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50"
> <aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org <mailto:aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org>>
> Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2008, 7:51 AM
>
>
> Yes, it is the one, it works, as long as you can get it to
> align the screen well enough, that you can insert the password.
> The trouble is, that the alignment of the cursor don't work
> well (or at all), so when you punch the letters, you have to
> try to find where to point the stylus to actually get the
> letter you want. It is 0.4-10 mm off where it should be.
>
> Mikko Silvennoinen
>
> All read the previous messages !
> we are creating a backup mailing-list, if you are wanting to
> make sure you get info in the future
> send your e-mail to mikko_at_pwar.net <mailto:mikko_at_pwar.net>
>
>
> Sonny wrote:
>> *Mikko ,is this to say that it works even partly, I have not
>> been able to get past the screen alignment settings page on
>> my x50v. I am using the same image you list or has this image
>> been edited within the last year (the date of the image being
>> 2007-06-27) is the name should be appended.*
>>
>>
>> --- On *Wed, 5/14/08, Mikko Silvennoinen /<mikko_at_pwar.net>
>> <mailto:mikko_at_pwar.net>/* wrote:
>>
>> From: Mikko Silvennoinen <mikko_at_pwar.net>
>> <mailto:mikko_at_pwar.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
>> To: "The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50"
>> <aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org>
>> <mailto:aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org>
>> Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2008, 5:23 AM
>>
>> There is something wrong with the web-site.
>> Some of the stuff can be found elsewhere in the web, but
>> it migth be hard to get everything.
>> I haven't tried really hard to find out what's the
>> situation of the web-site, but I think it migth be
>> down because of lack of money or interest.
>> I think it would be great if you could put up a new one
>> and a backup mailing-list if this one stops
>> working. I think irc-channel is not so good, because
>> often there is information lost and
>> not everybody is getting it.
>> I can put up an FTP-server and put all the stuff there.
>> When I get it up, you should get it all and save it on a cd.
>> To re-create the mailing list/ backup everybody who wants
>> to make sure to stay with in the future
>> should send their e-mail-address directly to me:
>> mikko_at_pwar.net <mailto:mikko_at_pwar.net> or
>> Stavros , who must let us know to what address ?
>> Or who wants can put their e-mail addresses on this list
>> to make sure all others get it.
>> I can make a link for further info to my web-page
>> http://www.bittiainen.com <http://www.bittiainen.com/> or
>> at some point http://www.pwar.net <http://www.pwar.net/>
>> or if those break for some reason to
>> http://www.sci.fi/~topweb/ <http://www.sci.fi/%7Etopweb/>
>>
>> Mikko Silvennoinen
>>
>> Stavros Fox Polymenis wrote:
>>> OK i just tried to get the kernel and the rest but non of the links
>>> work :(
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Stavros Polymenis
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mikko Silvennoinen <mikko_at_pwar.net> <mailto:mikko_at_pwar.net>
>>> Reply-To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
>>> <aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org> <mailto:aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org>
>>> To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
>>> <aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org> <mailto:aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
>>> Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 23:48:50 +0300
>>>
>>> Easiest making the SD-card:
>>> I used gparted on a linux desktop for partitioning the SD-card and
>>> formatting it, qparted works well too,
>>> found from System Tools menu.
>>> You can use your linux desktop's archiving tool-programs found usually
>>> from Accessories menu for
>>> unarchiving the Ångström image to the formatted ext2 partition on the
>>> SD-card.
>>> Or better first to hard drive, and then copy to SD.
>>> Try Krusader with root mode found e.g. on Kanotix live linux cd for
>>> tools.
>>> Or more widely on almost every linux desktop: Konqueror-web-browser,
>>> with this trick:
>>> Start it and from menu: Settings > Load View Profile > Midnigth
>>> Commander.
>>> You can make changes to settings and save the view-profile with an other
>>> name.
>>> e.g. FileCommander, then make a new launcer for it to panel and put to
>>> the "command":
>>> fmclient openProfile FileCommander
>>>
>>> These are more thorough instructions on what needs to be accomplished:
>>> (I don't know if all the web-links are up to date, but most was
>>> originally found from http://www.altavista.com <http://www.altavista.com/> )
>>> Note: This Readme is a modified Version from
>>> http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~zabel/magician/README <http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/%7Ezabel/magician/README>
>>>
>>> 0) Select correct Image
>>>
>>> First you have do know which device you have. Select the aximx50 (non
>>> vga) image for the following devices:
>>>
>>> * Dell Axim x50
>>> * Dell Axim x51
>>>
>>> or select the aximx50v (with vga display) image for the following
>>> devices:
>>>
>>> * Dell Axim x50v
>>> * Dell Axim x51v
>>>
>>> 1) Download
>>>
>>> To boot the experimental GPE image from SD card on a aximx50, you'll
>>> need the following files:
>>>
>>> * the experimental GPE image itself:
>>>
>>> [aximx50 series]
>>> http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50/Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070316-aximx50.rootfs.tar.bz2
>>> [aximx50v series]
>>> http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50v/Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070627-aximx50v.rootfs.tar.bz2
>>>
>>> * the linux kernel:
>>>
>>> [aximx50 series]
>>> http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50/zImage-2.6.20-hh2
>>> +cvs20070316-aximx50-20070316105623
>>> [aximx50v series]
>>> http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50v/zImage-2.6.21-hh9-aximx50v-20070625071129
>>>
>>> * HaRET:
>>>
>>> http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/haret-0.4.8.exe
>>>
>>> * A default.txt that tells HaRET how to boot the kernel:
>>>
>>> http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/default.txt
>>>
>>> 2) Prepare
>>>
>>> The SD card needs to be partitioned into two partitions: one small FAT
>>> partition that WinCE can see, and one EXT2 partition used as root file
>>> system. I'll assume that the block device of the SD card is
>>> called /dev/sda. Replace this with the correct device on your system.
>>> Instruction could be slightly different for each version of fdisk :
>>>
>>> * Delete all partitions on the SD card:
>>>
>>> fdisk /dev/sda
>>> d
>>> 1
>>> d
>>> 2
>>> d
>>> 3
>>>
>>> * Create partitions, for example a 10MB /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2
>>> using the rest:
>>>
>>> fdisk /dev/sda
>>> n
>>> p
>>> 1
>>> <default> (should be cylinder 1)
>>> +10M
>>> n
>>> p
>>> 2
>>> <default>
>>> <default> (should be last cylinder of the card)
>>> t
>>> 1
>>> 4
>>> w
>>>
>>> * Create file systems, a VFAT on /dev/sda1 and EXT2 on /dev/sda2:
>>>
>>> mkdosfs /dev/sda1
>>> mke2fs /dev/sda2
>>>
>>> * Copy HaRET, the kernel and default.txt onto sda1:
>>>
>>> mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
>>> [aximx50] cp zImage-2.6.20-hh2
>>> +cvs20070316-aximx50-20070316105623 /mnt/zImage
>>> [aximx50v] cp zImage-2.6.21-hh9-aximx50v-20070625071129 /mnt/zImage
>>> cp haret-0.4.8.exe /mnt/haret.exe
>>> cp default.txt /mnt/default.txt
>>> umount /dev/sda1
>>>
>>> * Unpack the GPE image onto sda2:
>>>
>>> mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
>>>
>>> if mounted in Fedora with mouse from Computer /..to: /media/disk
>>> [aximx50] bzcat
>>> Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070316-aximx50.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
>>> (cd /media/disk; tar x)
>>> [aximx50v] bzcat
>>> Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070627-aximx50v.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
>>> (cd /media/disk; tar x)
>>>
>>> umount /media/disk
>>>
>>> 3) Boot
>>>
>>> Put the SD card into the axim, start haret.exe and tap the "Run"
>>> button...
>>> On X50v/X51v, enable Mirror Mode(Start -> Settings -> System>Mirror).
>>>
>>> Note: If linux don't boot try turning WIFI and BLUETOOTH ON or only one
>>> of them.
>>>
>>> 4) Communicate
>>>
>>> Mailing List: aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org <mailto:aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org>
>>> (https://www.handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo/aximx50-port)
>>> Wiki: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX50
>>>
>>>
>>> You most likely need to edit the default.txt a little to have the
>>> settings you want rigth from
>>> the boot and not having to set so much by hand every time. They are for
>>> haret, and goes to the SD-cards
>>> FAT partition (FAT or FAT32 VFAT all works) .
>>> I changed the ip-numbers, the first is for Axim, the second of the
>>> internet connection eth-card of the machine
>>> it is connected with usb and third the gateway and fifth the net
>>> mask.
>>>
>>> Mikko Silvennoinen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> The installing was quite succesful, and
>>>> easy, if you can find the instructions and can follow them.
>>>> The more trickier part is to first back up everything.
>>>> Also and especially the bios of Axim. And test if you can restore
>>>> everything, if
>>>> something goes wrong.
>>>> It is not anyhow absolutely necessary with Axim X51v to back up bios.
>>>> With some other models it is.
>>>> It is safest to anyhow make sure you have a rigth new bios from Dell
>>>> company web-site, and
>>>> ability to load it, if something goes wrong. There is also some useful
>>>> programs that is helpful
>>>> to install on Axim, before doing anything dangerous to bios.
>>>>
>>>> I have a laptop with Fedora 6 linux, which I used to do most of this,
>>>> and you probably need a Windows machine
>>>> to use for backup and installing programs for Axim, before proceeding
>>>> and to prepare and to be able to
>>>> load Dell factory bios back if something goes wrong, but
>>>> I recommend first everybody try to use the system you are most
>>>> familiar with.
>>>> If you only have Windows, and need some linux-system fast try:
>>>> http://www.kanotix.org/changelang-eng.html
>>>> it is a bootable live-linux cd, that is the best available now. It's
>>>> up and running in minutes.
>>>> I think, I will change more to Debian in the future, which I have on
>>>> some machines.
>>>>
>>>> Instructions: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/x50vHowTo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Once booted the Ångström-image from SD-card, everything else works
>>>> reasonably well, but
>>>> the trouble is, that when trying to type text with the small virtual
>>>> keyboard
>>>> on the touch screen, it is often difficult, because, there is
>>>> something wrong
>>>> with the calibration system or some settings of the touch screen.
>>>> I don't yet exactly know what it is, but, somebody said earlier, that,
>>>> it could be
>>>> something in the kernel. There migth be something in some settings
>>>> file, that could be an other reason, but I don't know.
>>>> If there is something wrong in the kernel, it must be fixed first.
>>>> If it is of some settings file fixing it by editing is possible, but
>>>> you would have to know
>>>> where to look for.
>>>> Then also installing an other windowing system could work. Like I
>>>> think, the Google android is
>>>> one possible. Someone said earlier he wants to try that. There are
>>>> several others that are possible.
>>>> I think it depends on, what you want to use your Axim for, that you
>>>> can make a sensible choice.
>>>> At first the most sensible is, what works at all. Later you could have
>>>> even several different SD-cards
>>>> for different systems.
>>>> We would have to make a better version of the Ångström-image with the
>>>> problem fixed.
>>>> Has anyone a bluetooth keyboard that would work with Axim and linux,
>>>> that migth be a temporary
>>>> work around, so you can use the current image better, to study it and
>>>> try to fix it on-line ?
>>>>
>>>> Mikko
>>>>
>>>> Stavros Fox Polymenis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mikko,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your quick reply. How successful were you installing linux on
>>>>> your x51v ?
>>>>>
>>>>> what did you need to install it and what problems do u have?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Stavros
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Mikko Silvennoinen <mikko_at_pwar.net> <mailto:mikko_at_pwar.net>
>>>>> Reply-To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
>>>>> <aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org> <mailto:aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org>
>>>>> To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
>>>>> <aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org> <mailto:aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
>>>>> Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 18:25:44 +0300
>>>>>
>>>>> Stavros Fox Polymenis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this effort still alive?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Some are still trying something.
>>>>> Although I noticed, that the certificate of the secure-pages on web-site
>>>>> is outdated.
>>>>> If your browser is configured rigth, it should complain about this.
>>>>> Who is responsible of maintaining the list web-page ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anybody the .config -file of the kernel source-code for Axim
>>>>> (ARM-processor kernel),
>>>>> I have Axim X51v. I am planning to maybe reconfigure it, in hope of
>>>>> correcting the
>>>>> problem of the touch-screen-keyboard and touch screen calibration, (by
>>>>> using command: make xconfig) and
>>>>> changing what want/need, and recompiling from newest source-code.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mikko Silvennoinen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
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