Re: Still alive?

Yes we are using HaRet, read more of the earlier messages .
The ext2 partition is needed to keep the linux-system / =root filesystem.

Mikko Silvennoinen

Angel Sánchez Morales wrote:
> Thanks for the tutorial Mikko!
>
> In those days where i was involved we managed to get a telnet
> connection through the cradle heh.
> Aren't you using HaReT? We were using it to load the system images of
> the linux distribution for the PDA. It's quite clean and you don't
> need to reformat the SD card.
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Stavros Fox Polymenis
> <s.p_at_orbitalfox.com> wrote:
>
>> Right ok,
>>
>> Put up a ftp. Ill create a page where we can put information on the
>> project at www.orbitalfox.com/labs.php . If the project goes well, i can
>> make a completely separate page for it on my server. What would the
>> website need?
>>
>> My email is s.p_at_orbitalfox.com . Where are we putting the new mailing
>> list? I can host mailing lists on my server, but id rather not. Google
>> would be a good option.
>>
>> Let me know when the ftp is ready.
>>
>> Stavros
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 13:23 +0300, Mikko Silvennoinen wrote:
>> > There is something wrong with the web-site.
>> > Some of the stuff can be found elsewhere in the web, but it migth be
>> > hard to get everything.
>> > I haven't tried really hard to find out what's the situation of the
>> > web-site, but I think it migth be
>> > down because of lack of money or interest.
>> > I think it would be great if you could put up a new one and a backup
>> > mailing-list if this one stops
>> > working. I think irc-channel is not so good, because often there is
>> > information lost and
>> > not everybody is getting it.
>> > I can put up an FTP-server and put all the stuff there.
>> > When I get it up, you should get it all and save it on a cd.
>> > To re-create the mailing list/ backup everybody who wants to make sure
>> > to stay with in the future
>> > should send their e-mail-address directly to me: mikko_at_pwar.net or
>> > Stavros , who must let us know to what address ?
>> > Or who wants can put their e-mail addresses on this list to make sure
>> > all others get it.
>> > I can make a link for further info to my web-page
>> > http://www.bittiainen.com or
>> > at some point http://www.pwar.net or if those break for some reason to
>> > http://www.sci.fi/~topweb/
>> >
>> > Mikko Silvennoinen
>> >
>> > Stavros Fox Polymenis wrote:
>> > > OK i just tried to get the kernel and the rest but non of the links
>> > > work :(
>> > >
>> > > Any ideas?
>> > >
>> > > Stavros Polymenis
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Mikko Silvennoinen <mikko_at_pwar.net>
>> > > Reply-To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
>> > > <aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org>
>> > > To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
>> > > <aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org>
>> > > Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
>> > > Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 23:48:50 +0300
>> > >
>> > > Easiest making the SD-card:
>> > > I used gparted on a linux desktop for partitioning the SD-card and
>> > > formatting it, qparted works well too,
>> > > found from System Tools menu.
>> > > You can use your linux desktop's archiving tool-programs found usually
>> > > from Accessories menu for
>> > > unarchiving the Ångström image to the formatted ext2 partition on the
>> > > SD-card.
>> > > Or better first to hard drive, and then copy to SD.
>> > > Try Krusader with root mode found e.g. on Kanotix live linux cd for
>> > > tools.
>> > > Or more widely on almost every linux desktop: Konqueror-web-browser,
>> > > with this trick:
>> > > Start it and from menu: Settings > Load View Profile > Midnigth
>> > > Commander.
>> > > You can make changes to settings and save the view-profile with an other
>> > > name.
>> > > e.g. FileCommander, then make a new launcer for it to panel and put to
>> > > the "command":
>> > > fmclient openProfile FileCommander
>> > >
>> > > These are more thorough instructions on what needs to be accomplished:
>> > > (I don't know if all the web-links are up to date, but most was
>> > > originally found from http://www.altavista.com )
>> > > Note: This Readme is a modified Version from
>> > > http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~zabel/magician/README
>> > >
>> > > 0) Select correct Image
>> > >
>> > > First you have do know which device you have. Select the aximx50 (non
>> > > vga) image for the following devices:
>> > >
>> > > * Dell Axim x50
>> > > * Dell Axim x51
>> > >
>> > > or select the aximx50v (with vga display) image for the following
>> > > devices:
>> > >
>> > > * Dell Axim x50v
>> > > * Dell Axim x51v
>> > >
>> > > 1) Download
>> > >
>> > > To boot the experimental GPE image from SD card on a aximx50, you'll
>> > > need the following files:
>> > >
>> > > * the experimental GPE image itself:
>> > >
>> > > [aximx50 series]
>> > > http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50/Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070316-aximx50.rootfs.tar.bz2
>> > > [aximx50v series]
>> > > http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50v/Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070627-aximx50v.rootfs.tar.bz2
>> > >
>> > > * the linux kernel:
>> > >
>> > > [aximx50 series]
>> > > http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50/zImage-2.6.20-hh2
>> > > +cvs20070316-aximx50-20070316105623
>> > > [aximx50v series]
>> > > http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50v/zImage-2.6.21-hh9-aximx50v-20070625071129
>> > >
>> > > * HaRET:
>> > >
>> > > http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/haret-0.4.8.exe
>> > >
>> > > * A default.txt that tells HaRET how to boot the kernel:
>> > >
>> > > http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/default.txt
>> > >
>> > > 2) Prepare
>> > >
>> > > The SD card needs to be partitioned into two partitions: one small FAT
>> > > partition that WinCE can see, and one EXT2 partition used as root file
>> > > system. I'll assume that the block device of the SD card is
>> > > called /dev/sda. Replace this with the correct device on your system.
>> > > Instruction could be slightly different for each version of fdisk :
>> > >
>> > > * Delete all partitions on the SD card:
>> > >
>> > > fdisk /dev/sda
>> > > d
>> > > 1
>> > > d
>> > > 2
>> > > d
>> > > 3
>> > >
>> > > * Create partitions, for example a 10MB /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2
>> > > using the rest:
>> > >
>> > > fdisk /dev/sda
>> > > n
>> > > p
>> > > 1
>> > > <default> (should be cylinder 1)
>> > > +10M
>> > > n
>> > > p
>> > > 2
>> > > <default>
>> > > <default> (should be last cylinder of the card)
>> > > t
>> > > 1
>> > > 4
>> > > w
>> > >
>> > > * Create file systems, a VFAT on /dev/sda1 and EXT2 on /dev/sda2:
>> > >
>> > > mkdosfs /dev/sda1
>> > > mke2fs /dev/sda2
>> > >
>> > > * Copy HaRET, the kernel and default.txt onto sda1:
>> > >
>> > > mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
>> > > [aximx50] cp zImage-2.6.20-hh2
>> > > +cvs20070316-aximx50-20070316105623 /mnt/zImage
>> > > [aximx50v] cp zImage-2.6.21-hh9-aximx50v-20070625071129 /mnt/zImage
>> > > cp haret-0.4.8.exe /mnt/haret.exe
>> > > cp default.txt /mnt/default.txt
>> > > umount /dev/sda1
>> > >
>> > > * Unpack the GPE image onto sda2:
>> > >
>> > > mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
>> > >
>> > > if mounted in Fedora with mouse from Computer /..to: /media/disk
>> > > [aximx50] bzcat
>> > > Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070316-aximx50.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
>> > > (cd /media/disk; tar x)
>> > > [aximx50v] bzcat
>> > > Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070627-aximx50v.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
>> > > (cd /media/disk; tar x)
>> > >
>> > > umount /media/disk
>> > >
>> > > 3) Boot
>> > >
>> > > Put the SD card into the axim, start haret.exe and tap the "Run"
>> > > button...
>> > > On X50v/X51v, enable Mirror Mode(Start -> Settings -> System>Mirror).
>> > >
>> > > Note: If linux don't boot try turning WIFI and BLUETOOTH ON or only one
>> > > of them.
>> > >
>> > > 4) Communicate
>> > >
>> > > Mailing List: aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org
>> > > (https://www.handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo/aximx50-port)
>> > > Wiki: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX50
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > You most likely need to edit the default.txt a little to have the
>> > > settings you want rigth from
>> > > the boot and not having to set so much by hand every time. They are for
>> > > haret, and goes to the SD-cards
>> > > FAT partition (FAT or FAT32 VFAT all works) .
>> > > I changed the ip-numbers, the first is for Axim, the second of the
>> > > internet connection eth-card of the machine
>> > > it is connected with usb and third the gateway and fifth the net
>> > > mask.
>> > >
>> > > Mikko Silvennoinen
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > The installing was quite succesful, and
>> > > > easy, if you can find the instructions and can follow them.
>> > > > The more trickier part is to first back up everything.
>> > > > Also and especially the bios of Axim. And test if you can restore
>> > > > everything, if
>> > > > something goes wrong.
>> > > > It is not anyhow absolutely necessary with Axim X51v to back up bios.
>> > > > With some other models it is.
>> > > > It is safest to anyhow make sure you have a rigth new bios from Dell
>> > > > company web-site, and
>> > > > ability to load it, if something goes wrong. There is also some useful
>> > > > programs that is helpful
>> > > > to install on Axim, before doing anything dangerous to bios.
>> > > >
>> > > > I have a laptop with Fedora 6 linux, which I used to do most of this,
>> > > > and you probably need a Windows machine
>> > > > to use for backup and installing programs for Axim, before proceeding
>> > > > and to prepare and to be able to
>> > > > load Dell factory bios back if something goes wrong, but
>> > > > I recommend first everybody try to use the system you are most
>> > > > familiar with.
>> > > > If you only have Windows, and need some linux-system fast try:
>> > > > http://www.kanotix.org/changelang-eng.html
>> > > > it is a bootable live-linux cd, that is the best available now. It's
>> > > > up and running in minutes.
>> > > > I think, I will change more to Debian in the future, which I have on
>> > > > some machines.
>> > > >
>> > > > Instructions: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/x50vHowTo
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Once booted the Ångström-image from SD-card, everything else works
>> > > > reasonably well, but
>> > > > the trouble is, that when trying to type text with the small virtual
>> > > > keyboard
>> > > > on the touch screen, it is often difficult, because, there is
>> > > > something wrong
>> > > > with the calibration system or some settings of the touch screen.
>> > > > I don't yet exactly know what it is, but, somebody said earlier, that,
>> > > > it could be
>> > > > something in the kernel. There migth be something in some settings
>> > > > file, that could be an other reason, but I don't know.
>> > > > If there is something wrong in the kernel, it must be fixed first.
>> > > > If it is of some settings file fixing it by editing is possible, but
>> > > > you would have to know
>> > > > where to look for.
>> > > > Then also installing an other windowing system could work. Like I
>> > > > think, the Google android is
>> > > > one possible. Someone said earlier he wants to try that. There are
>> > > > several others that are possible.
>> > > > I think it depends on, what you want to use your Axim for, that you
>> > > > can make a sensible choice.
>> > > > At first the most sensible is, what works at all. Later you could have
>> > > > even several different SD-cards
>> > > > for different systems.
>> > > > We would have to make a better version of the Ångström-image with the
>> > > > problem fixed.
>> > > > Has anyone a bluetooth keyboard that would work with Axim and linux,
>> > > > that migth be a temporary
>> > > > work around, so you can use the current image better, to study it and
>> > > > try to fix it on-line ?
>> > > >
>> > > > Mikko
>> > > >
>> > > > Stavros Fox Polymenis wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hi Mikko,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks for your quick reply. How successful were you installing linux on
>> > > > > your x51v ?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > what did you need to install it and what problems do u have?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Regards,
>> > > > > Stavros
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: Mikko Silvennoinen <mikko_at_pwar.net>
>> > > > > Reply-To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
>> > > > > <aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org>
>> > > > > To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
>> > > > > <aximx50-port_at_handhelds.org>
>> > > > > Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
>> > > > > Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 18:25:44 +0300
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Stavros Fox Polymenis wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Greetings all,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Is this effort still alive?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Regards
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > Some are still trying something.
>> > > > > Although I noticed, that the certificate of the secure-pages on web-site
>> > > > > is outdated.
>> > > > > If your browser is configured rigth, it should complain about this.
>> > > > > Who is responsible of maintaining the list web-page ?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Has anybody the .config -file of the kernel source-code for Axim
>> > > > > (ARM-processor kernel),
>> > > > > I have Axim X51v. I am planning to maybe reconfigure it, in hope of
>> > > > > correcting the
>> > > > > problem of the touch-screen-keyboard and touch screen calibration, (by
>> > > > > using command: make xconfig) and
>> > > > > changing what want/need, and recompiling from newest source-code.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Mikko Silvennoinen
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
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